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USED Upper and lower rear control arms wanted
Hi has any one got a set of used undamaged rear upper and lower control arms in the east mids area, as I want a set so I can rebush and then replace the worn out ones on my D3 as cant have too much down time over the summer period as this is my daily driver car
7th Aug 2018 9:13 am
gstuart
Member Since: 21 Oct 2016
Location: kent
Posts: 13858
Hi
When I done mine I just bought new arms with the bushes already fitted , saves a lot of time trying to get the old bushes out
At the same time replaced the brake hoses as they have to be disconnected from the arms , also done new drop links and hub knuckle bushes
Hope u don’t mind me saying , upper wishbone bolts usually req them to be cut because they seize
May i ask what will u use to get the old bushes out
7th Aug 2018 9:43 am
Nasher
Member Since: 07 Mar 2009
Location: Clanfield, North of Pompey - UK
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gstuart wrote:
At the same time replaced the brake hoses as they have to be disconnected from the arms
Not if you cut a small slot through the mounting ring just big enough to slip the loose pipe through like other manufacturers do in the first place.
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7th Aug 2018 9:58 am
gstuart
Member Since: 21 Oct 2016
Location: kent
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That’s just cheating
7th Aug 2018 11:36 am
Nasher
Member Since: 07 Mar 2009
Location: Clanfield, North of Pompey - UK
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I need to do the arms on my 220K mile D3 for the second time soon, and am glad I thought of it the first time as I hate bleeding brakes.
Also that I kept the old arms first time around to reduce downtime this time around.
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7th Aug 2018 12:21 pm
gstuart
Member Since: 21 Oct 2016
Location: kent
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Done mine and what a pig of a job but in the end well worth it
Useto wander slighter down the motorway but now drives so much nicer
At least u doing them second time round the bolts will come out easily because u copper slipped them , not like the original bolts seizing solid
Out of interest, what will u use to get the old bushes out plse
7th Aug 2018 1:10 pm
Nasher
Member Since: 07 Mar 2009
Location: Clanfield, North of Pompey - UK
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I used a drill and hacksaw to cut through the rubber to release the metal centre, then used the hacksaw to carefully cut a slot from the centre outwards in two places, if that makes sense, trying not to cut into the metal of the arm.
Once the outer metal sleeve of the bush is in two pieces it's easy to get a metalworking chisel, or if you have to a screwdriver, hammered in behind the corner.
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7th Aug 2018 1:30 pm
Nasher
Member Since: 07 Mar 2009
Location: Clanfield, North of Pompey - UK
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I should say that I did what the OP is doing the first time around and got hold of a used set of arms to refurbish before touching the car. Hence I still have my originals to refurbish this time.
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7th Aug 2018 1:34 pm
gstuart
Member Since: 21 Oct 2016
Location: kent
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Nasher wrote:
I used a drill and hacksaw to cut through the rubber to release the metal centre, then used the hacksaw to carefully cut a slot from the centre outwards in two places, if that makes sense, trying not to cut into the metal of the arm.
Once the outer metal sleeve of the bush is in two pieces it's easy to get a metalworking chisel, or if you have to a screwdriver, hammered in behind the corner.
Nasher
Hi
Yeh think I know what u mean , took me hours with an electric recip saw, only managed to undo 1 x bolt , everything else put up a fight
7th Aug 2018 3:14 pm
gstuart
Member Since: 21 Oct 2016
Location: kent
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Nasher wrote:
I should say that I did what the OP is doing the first time around and got hold of a used set of arms to refurbish before touching the car. Hence I still have my originals to refurbish this time.
Nasher
Unfortunately didn’t have that luxury , another reason I bought complete arms
What did u use to get the old bushes out and back in again please
Thks
7th Aug 2018 3:16 pm
grzesiul
Member Since: 11 May 2008
Location: UK
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whan i was doing lower arms on old D3 i used thin large metal cutting disck on angle grinder to cut the blot inside the mount
took 30 min both sides max
G
7th Aug 2018 3:21 pm
Nasher
Member Since: 07 Mar 2009
Location: Clanfield, North of Pompey - UK
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Maybe a slight misunderstanding here.
The method I explained above was to remove the old bushes from the arms once they were off the car.
I was lucky that almost all my bolts just undid with a bit of effort, and were not seized in the centre metal bush. the one that didn't come out took two blades in my reciprocating saw to cut through, but didn't take long and I did it without damaging the arms or the chassis at all.
As you've said, I didn't put them back in dry, so I'm hoping they'll all wind out this time.
I turned up some Aluminium drifts in my lathe to use when pushing the new Bushes in, which I did at work in a 20Tn press.
Which is the main benefit of preparing a set of arms before dismantling the car.
As had been said though, the price of pre-prepared new arms isn't actually that bad if you don't want to muck about too much or don't have the facilities.
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7th Aug 2018 3:44 pm
gstuart
Member Since: 21 Oct 2016
Location: kent
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grzesiul wrote:
whan i was doing lower arms on old D3 i used thin large metal cutting disck on angle grinder to cut the blot inside the mount
took 30 min both sides max
G
Hi
Thks, couldn’t get a grinder in there on the top back bolt as that would have been perfect and indeed alot quicker than a recip saw
7th Aug 2018 3:53 pm
gstuart
Member Since: 21 Oct 2016
Location: kent
Posts: 13858
Nasher wrote:
Maybe a slight misunderstanding here.
The method I explained above was to remove the old bushes from the arms once they were off the car.
I was lucky that almost all my bolts just undid with a bit of effort, and were not seized in the centre metal bush. the one that didn't come out took two blades in my reciprocating saw to cut through, but didn't take long and I did it without damaging the arms or the chassis at all.
As you've said, I didn't put them back in dry, so I'm hoping they'll all wind out this time.
I turned up some Aluminium drifts in my lathe to use when pushing the new Bushes in, which I did at work in a 20Tn press.
Which is the main benefit of preparing a set of arms before dismantling the car.
As had been said though, the price of pre-prepared new arms isn't actually that bad if you don't want to muck about too much or don't have the facilities.
Nasher
Hi
Ah, that’s makes a lot more sense now
Indeed think both sides, which inc the upper wishbones , knuckle bushes, brake hoses, drop links came to around £250
I bought a universal bearing extractor kit which worked well
When I put new bolts in I smothered them in coppaslip so in theory should make life a lot easier in the future
Am jealous as that must be awesome having ur own lathe
7th Aug 2018 3:58 pm
bronjen
Member Since: 31 Mar 2015
Location: Derby de2
Posts: 141
The reason for wanting an old set of arms is so I can use urethane bushes, I have access to a press and the fronts are urethane and am happy with the ride on them, so only want to do this job once
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