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Mogwyth wrote:
Probably planned all along the Slovenia plant has a 150,000 vehicle capacity, D5 would only take 10-15% of that.
Where?
11th Jun 2018 6:39 pm
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beeping fat fingers Slovakia off course.==================================
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11th Jun 2018 6:42 pm
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Think it would be more than 15% ...at least 33% if it takes the full annual build just as it currently stands
11th Jun 2018 6:47 pm
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For those considering one, how would you feel about your car being built by people who have just learned from the Press that they’ll be losing their jobs to Eastern Europe?
I’m wondering what morale must be like amongst the others once this has happened? It must be hard to believe the reassurances that they are committed to the UK, when they went back on the promise to continue to build the ‘5 in Solihull and the business case for moving work into a low cost country, that’s remaining in the EU, must be so strong.
Now that I’ve got over the initial shock, I can see why this is all makes some kind of sense from LR’s point of view, as long as they can minimise damage to the brand.2011 - 2015: 3 x FL2
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11th Jun 2018 8:51 pm
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At Solihull they assemble D5, RRS and FFRR on the same line, and they can’t build enough. The plant is land-locked and can’t expand. There’s already a thread on here somewhere about how hard it is to get a Sport or full fat, and this is how JLR are fixing it.
Any global company worth their salt would be trying to place plants either side of the Brexit line. Solihull will continue as the flagship plant building the flagship vehicles.Disco 5 HSE Lux
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11th Jun 2018 9:11 pm
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No doubt once we are out of the EU, the UK will of course be applying tariffs to foreign built vehicles just like the EU/USA will on all foreign vehicles. JLR may live to regret.......MG
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JLR move production of one model abroad and everyone’s up in arms.
Ford moved their Transit production to Turkey, no one batted an eyelid
Vauxhall’s UK plants futures are uncertain, no one cares.
Hopefully the Slovakians can put them together better than the UK23.5MY Defender 90 X-Dynamic SE D250 MHEV Pangea Green
11th Jun 2018 9:53 pm
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.....and that’s why I’m in Bratislava now
This is old news; uk plants are land-locked to further development, JLR volumes still rising (yes, still....), EVERYONE builds globally now (German Roller bodies anyone ), tariffs, logistic costs, yadda, yadda, yadda.....
Don’t get all this “disgruntled from little Britain” stuff going on thought anyone would that backed lil’ ole Engerland was racist or something thinking of some other threads on here
The contractors that are leaving is not because of this, you don’t just go “oh, ok, we can keep them, stop what’s been happening in Slovakia for last 3-5 years” and the unions involved throughout.
11th Jun 2018 9:58 pm
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JLR has always said production of one model would move to the new plant, everyone seemed happy enough when it was thought the Defender would move production.23.5MY Defender 90 X-Dynamic SE D250 MHEV Pangea Green
11th Jun 2018 10:00 pm
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Well I dont give a rat's ass where they are built. "I want my car to be built in Britain" brigade yea like your tv was or your fridge or your phone.In the Beginning there was nothing, which exploded.
11th Jun 2018 10:13 pm
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...or your gearbox ...or your 4.4 TDV8
11th Jun 2018 10:15 pm
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I thought the D5 was that bad that everyone was jumping ship to other vehicles that aren’t built in Britain anyway, so who cares?
“I won’t buy another LR if it’s not built in Britain”, they cry, “I’ll buy Volvo instead”, because it’s built in IKEA. Which is just up the road 23.5MY Defender 90 X-Dynamic SE D250 MHEV Pangea Green
11th Jun 2018 10:17 pm
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That was my understanding of the ‘hedge’ of the Slovakia plant.....that if tariff free access was not agreed post-brexit then those cars which were most susceptible to price increases could be built within the EU....Hence RR and RRS would still stay in the U.K. only as they’re not so price sensitive as say a Disco Sport.....
So I had expected the lower end cars to be built in Slovakia, as with the other plants around the world to avoid the import taxes it makes sense, but not their premium SUV. I still sit squarely in the category that you need a balanced economy to safeguard the wealth of current and future generations, and for a supposed national ‘champion’ which continually refers to Britishness in all its’ marketing to move its’ flagship family SUV abroad completely p*&£@#me off........
I also think the lack of Government action on the mooted new JLR electric car Coventry factory may have played a part in their decision. I read an article about Ratan Tata who talked about Government subsidies playing a key part in where manufacturing sites were located, and JLR need a significant investment in the infrastructure, power plants, roads etc. to make this viable. Speth talked openly last year about bringing electric car manufacturing back to Coventry, and my guess is that the inactivity from the Government exhausted their patience in waiting for the Coventry go-ahead so they had to press on with Solihull.....with the relocation of the Disco the consequence.....
11th Jun 2018 10:57 pm
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J77 wrote:
Ford moved their Transit production to Turkey, no one batted an eyelid
Errr... they did. As any Transit driver will tell you, the Turkish ones are nowhere near as well built as they used to be from Southampton!
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