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Red Merle
Member Since: 30 Aug 2014
Location: Liskeard
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While it’s great news that JLR have their own engine facility at Wolverhampton, spare a thought for those still working at Bridgend and Dagenham, the people that will feel the downside of this.
I didn’t realise that the 4.4 was built by Ford in Chihuahua, in Mexico, until after I’d ordered it. But, at least it’ll annoy Donald Trump, which is worth its weight in gold  2011 - 2015: 3 x FL2
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 7th Jun 2018 10:22 am |
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DG
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Member Since: 12 Dec 2005
Location: The Gaff
Posts: 50979
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Ford have been aware of JLR's engine aspirations for some time and although the contract timetable has been brought forward slightly they have long had an opportunity to start planning for alternatives such as electric motor and battery production. Sadly though Ford is citing Brexit and the uncertainty that comes with it as a reason for indecision on any future investment. I fear they will shut one plant in any case. 
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| 7th Jun 2018 10:47 am |
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Pelyma
Member Since: 06 Jan 2005
Location: Patching, Sussex
Posts: 15496
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So why has the 3L petrol gone? DS3 TDV6 HSE - Silver with Alpaca (old one) Gone
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| 7th Jun 2018 11:18 am |
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J77
Member Since: 03 Mar 2008
Location: Fife
Posts: 6272
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Perhaps getting ready to offer the 2.0 300hp ingenium? 23.5MY Defender 90 X-Dynamic SE D250 MHEV Pangea Green
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| 7th Jun 2018 12:03 pm |
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DiscoStu
Member Since: 09 Apr 2006
Location: London
Posts: 11412
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I suspect it's only dropped for the EU market
Quote:Cars are responsible for around 12% of total EU emissions of carbon dioxide (CO2), the main greenhouse gas.
EU legislation sets mandatory emission reduction targets for new cars. This legislation is the cornerstone of the EU's strategy to improve the fuel economy of cars sold on the European market. Similar targets have been set for new vans.
The 2015 and 2021 targets represent reductions of 18% and 40% respectively compared with the 2007 fleet average of 158.7 grams of CO2 per kilometre (g CO2/km).
2015 target
The average emissions level of a new car sold in 2017 was 118.5 grams of CO2 per kilometre, significantly below the 2015 target of 130 g (provisional data).
The 2015 target corresponds to a fuel consumption of around 5.6 litres per 100 km (l/100 km) of petrol or 4.9 l/100 km of diesel.
Since monitoring started under current legislation in 2010, emissions have decreased by 22 g CO2/km (16%).
2021 target
By 2021, phased in from 2020, the fleet average to be achieved by all new cars is 95 grams of CO2 per kilometre.
This means a fuel consumption of around 4.1 l/100 km of petrol or 3.6 l/100 km of diesel.
Limit value curve
Emission limits are set according to the mass of vehicle, using a limit value curve. The curve is set in such a way that the targets for fleet average emissions are achieved.
The limit value curve means that heavier cars are allowed higher emissions than lighter cars. Only the fleet average is regulated, so manufacturers are still able to make vehicles with emissions above the curve, as long as these are balanced by vehicles below the curve.
Phase-in of requirements
The target of 130g/km was phased in between 2012 and 2015. From 2015 onwards, all newly registered cars must comply with the limit value curve.
A shorter phase-in period will apply to the target of 95 g/km. 95% of each manufacturer's new cars will have to comply with the limit value curve in 2020, increasing to 100% in 2021.
Penalty payments for excess emissions
If the average CO2 emissions of a manufacturer's fleet exceed its limit value in any year from 2012, the manufacturer has to pay an excess emissions premium for each car registered.
This premium amounts to
€5 for the first g/km of exceedance
€15 for the second g/km
€25 for the third g/km
€95 for each subsequent g/km.
From 2019, the cost will be €95 from the first gram of exceedance onwards.
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| 7th Jun 2018 12:25 pm |
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J77
Member Since: 03 Mar 2008
Location: Fife
Posts: 6272
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Makes sense.
Just checked the 2.0 Si4 already offered. 23.5MY Defender 90 X-Dynamic SE D250 MHEV Pangea Green
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| 7th Jun 2018 12:52 pm |
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Ken
Member Since: 20 Feb 2006
Location: Here
Posts: 10865
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FF I have a 5.0 565BHP Supercharged Petrol 
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| 7th Jun 2018 1:14 pm |
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jjvd21
Member Since: 16 Jul 2007
Location: Chicago
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Is the SVX still coming? 16 D4 Landmark
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| 1st Jan 2019 7:40 pm |
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Pollski
Member Since: 22 Jan 2011
Location: Kent
Posts: 149
 
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Red Merle wrote:
I didn’t realise that the 4.4 was built by Ford in Chihuahua, in Mexico, until after I’d ordered it. But, at least it’ll annoy Donald Trump, which is worth its weight in gold
My brother (who lives in Switzerland) ordered a BMW X3. It has been delayed by a week and it was only when he was chasing it up that he found out that they are built in South Africa! I was a little surprised tbh. But then maybe robots don't make lemons ...or could they make lemonade ? My16 HSE Landmark - 2016 - Current. Indus Silver
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| 2nd Jan 2019 12:38 pm |
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Ken
Member Since: 20 Feb 2006
Location: Here
Posts: 10865
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jjvd21 wrote:Is the SVX still coming?
Nope press release last year confirming its a unicorn
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| 2nd Jan 2019 1:29 pm |
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