Philip1972
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Day dreaming about building an engine (laugh all like) |
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Bit of a hypothetical question, that could one day be reality.
Its looking like I will have access to/use of a workshop. I have always wanted to strip and rebuild an engine, and while its well out of skill range, you never learn until you try. I was thinking of buying a scrap engine and just taking it to bits, purely to see how they work and go together etc. No real expectation of getting it working or installed in anything.
But then I thought, why not aim a bit higher and see if, just possibly, I could get an old scrap engine going again.
And since I own a Disco, why not do it to a Disco engine?
Any reasons why its not possible?
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2nd Feb 2018 11:33 am |
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Hardware
Member Since: 28 Jun 2016
Location: Hiding under the M60
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nothing like going in at the deep end, eh ?
I'd suggest something old and not dependant on electrickery to run. that way you can see how the mechanicals work before spending time/effort/money on what I'd say is quite an ambitious project for a learner.
I lost my bottle for this stuff when I re-built the cylinder head on my X1/9 and forgot a couple of simple steps ... like leaving spark-plugs out when you turn it over the first time in case of water ingress. Luckily it survived, but I lost enthusiasm.
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2nd Feb 2018 11:49 am |
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J@mes
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Trouble with doing a disco engine is that you'll never really know if you've rebuild it right until you fire it up....... you going to install it in your D3 and try it
I'd do a small motorbike engine
Easy to move, cheap to buy spares
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2nd Feb 2018 11:55 am |
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professorpool
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Yeah or maybe a small outboard? D3 07 SE - still going strong
D3 07 HSE - gone to car heaven
FL1 - gone to Romania
D3 05 HSE - gone to a divorce diet
D1 V8 manual - gone but not forgotten
RR Classic - gone to car heaven
Jeeps, Lexus, X-trails... Too many to name..
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2nd Feb 2018 12:17 pm |
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wizbongre
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Your local college might do an evening class over a few weeks taking you through the process.
I'd also echo other's advice to start with something manageable. Anything from the late 70's or early 80's would be good where its all normally aspirated carb's and distributor fired ignition. Everything then is down to mechanics and following instructions/processes/measurements. Cheers,
Gareth
'57 D3 2.7 TDV6 HSE gone and soon to be forgotten!
‘15 D4 3.0 SDV6 HSE Luxury
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2nd Feb 2018 12:27 pm |
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NJSS
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In the alternative buy a fun, cheap to maintain/restore vehicle, with a shot engine & restore the engine.
Go for something with no fancy electronics, carburettor rather than FI, maybe an early Mini, MG Midget or MGB, Ford Escort etc..
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Past LRs - Multiple FFRs, Discos & a Series I - some petrol, some diesel,
none Electric or H2 fuel cell - yet.
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2nd Feb 2018 12:29 pm |
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lynalldiscovery
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Anything even remotely modern is going to cost a small fortune in gaskets and seals, now something popular and well worn out has got to be the old land rover petrol 4 pot and would be my choice, spare parts literally everywhere and cheap plus of course a wealth of knowledge, and you can always sell it to recoup some of your costs.
Gain some experience then maybe go onto something fancy.
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2nd Feb 2018 12:31 pm |
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Pete K
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better off doing a 4 cylinder engine. Can just about move it about.
Maybe a spare engine for the wifes car ?
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2nd Feb 2018 12:36 pm |
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professorpool
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NJSS wrote:In the alternative buy a fun, cheap to maintain/restore vehicle, with a shot engine & restore the engine.
Go for something with no fancy electronics, carburettor rather than FI, maybe an early Mini, MG Midget or MGB, Ford Escort etc..
NJSS
A long time ago in a galaxy far far away changed a few head gaskets on the old a series engines. You could whip them apart with a £10 halfords tool kit and a haines manual - only needing the torque wrench. D3 07 SE - still going strong
D3 07 HSE - gone to car heaven
FL1 - gone to Romania
D3 05 HSE - gone to a divorce diet
D1 V8 manual - gone but not forgotten
RR Classic - gone to car heaven
Jeeps, Lexus, X-trails... Too many to name..
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2nd Feb 2018 12:38 pm |
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professorpool
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Actually, how about a beat up freelander with a k series engine?
Have a good play and then smash it to pieces laning afterwards D3 07 SE - still going strong
D3 07 HSE - gone to car heaven
FL1 - gone to Romania
D3 05 HSE - gone to a divorce diet
D1 V8 manual - gone but not forgotten
RR Classic - gone to car heaven
Jeeps, Lexus, X-trails... Too many to name..
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2nd Feb 2018 12:38 pm |
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Pete K
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yeah that's an idea.
A freelander with a knackered engine and possibly get back on the road ?
or use it.
or break it if things don't work out
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2nd Feb 2018 12:49 pm |
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Browny90
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I would suggest a 200 or 300 tdi defender engine, they are pretty much the last of the 'simple' land rover engine i.e pre ECU..
The only electrics you get on the engine ire oil pressure sensor, temp sensor, alternator and started motor..
But to get it started, you just need 12v to the starter, an earth, 12v to the fuel solenoid and fuel..
The engines are fairly cheap, there's always someone around who will want to buy them and loads of info on Defender2.net
The parts are also very cheap, I guess the spare parts you need for a disco engine will cost considerably more. Disco4 MY16 SDV6 Landmark Black
Disco4 MY12 SDV6 XS Orkney Grey (Gone)
Defender 90 200tdi Completely rebuilt.
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professorpool
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With freelanders - you can buy runners for a few hundred quid. D3 07 SE - still going strong
D3 07 HSE - gone to car heaven
FL1 - gone to Romania
D3 05 HSE - gone to a divorce diet
D1 V8 manual - gone but not forgotten
RR Classic - gone to car heaven
Jeeps, Lexus, X-trails... Too many to name..
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2nd Feb 2018 1:07 pm |
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JMack
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I've been thinking about doing something similar for a while.
Not done it yet but was thinking about a smaller engine to start with, maybe a small motorbike/scooter or an outboard or chainsaw.
But the dead Freelander also sounds like a good idea...
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2nd Feb 2018 1:46 pm |
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professorpool
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https://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_from=R4...hi=1%2C080 D3 07 SE - still going strong
D3 07 HSE - gone to car heaven
FL1 - gone to Romania
D3 05 HSE - gone to a divorce diet
D1 V8 manual - gone but not forgotten
RR Classic - gone to car heaven
Jeeps, Lexus, X-trails... Too many to name..
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2nd Feb 2018 2:00 pm |
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