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are you saying a 110 1980 simple diesel has more torque as the TDV6?
BTW, regarding fuel consumption, I do have a sportive driving way, and due to fuel consumption I did try the low rpm driving, only it didn't go down with more than .5 l /100km
Currently it's at 11.8l/100km.
The only way it consumes significant less is when driving at a max of 2000rpm on the highway in 6th gear. That's at a speed of 100kph
Once I start towing (my 1.5 ton Iltis or 750K Sankey) consumption goes way up, regardless how I drive it.
BTW, it needs to say that 1st gear realy realy is very bad when towing up a mountain For just starting from 0 up hill I need to put it in low gear in order to safe the cluthIn a time of chimpanzees, I was a penguin. www.m-release.com
14th Dec 2005 8:44 pm
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I am not technical, all I can tell you is the 110 did take one hell of a lot of catching DS3 TDV6 HSE - Silver with Alpaca (old one) Gone
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My 90 takes some catching doesn't it Si 06 D3 SE / 15 LR D90 XS SW / 88 LR 90 Td5 / 68 BMW 2000 ti
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14th Dec 2005 10:21 pm
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my ex 110 TD5 did indeed have more torque than the DIII (for sure in high first), but a 1980 ??
This morning I drove the BN style, and it is similar to the way I drive when driving relaxed, but, fuel usage did not drop, and when shifting at 2000 it often drops back to 1250rpm what make the DIII stall.
So driving the same way when pulling a heavy load wont work then.
When I don't watch the rpm and drive relaxed, I change gears at 2500rpm, and then it drops to ~2000rpm.
Or I have a special DIII In a time of chimpanzees, I was a penguin. www.m-release.com
15th Dec 2005 8:50 am
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Penguin wrote:
my ex 110 TD5 did indeed have more torque than the DIII (for sure in high first), but a 1980 ??
This morning I drove the BN style, and it is similar to the way I drive when driving relaxed, but, fuel usage did not drop, and when shifting at 2000 it often drops back to 1250rpm what make the DIII stall.
So driving the same way when pulling a heavy load wont work then.
When I don't watch the rpm and drive relaxed, I change gears at 2500rpm, and then it drops to ~2000rpm.
Or I have a special DIII
It has to be taught 1:1 to benefit and as you have an auto there is a slightly different technique. I have been doing the job so long now, I can tell even how passionate a person is Your thoughts on gentle maybe to me aggressive .
If I compare driving techniques from say Russia (sorry Igor) and then Sweden (sorry yamimam) there is no comparison. Sweden even though they have serious snow like Russia drive totally differently.
I will try to sort out a driving techniques post, but at the moment I am a little busy to spend time on it.
15th Dec 2005 10:00 am
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I don't have an auto, is't a manual.
But like I said before, I do have a sportive way of driving
But I as well was looking for the most economic way of driving with the DIII, but then I'd better bought a Defender 110 again, as that would be driving at max 100km/h on the high way (= ~2000rpm) with the DIIIIn a time of chimpanzees, I was a penguin. www.m-release.com
15th Dec 2005 10:18 am
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Penguin wrote:
I don't have an auto, is't a manual.
But like I said before, I do have a sportive way of driving
But I as well was looking for the most economic way of driving with the DIII, but then I'd better bought a Defender 110 again, as that would be driving at max 100km/h on the high way (= ~2000rpm) with the DIII
Use the engine mapping to try the car. Find a very steep upward hill and stop on it. Place the car in 1st low then remove the brake and pull away without using the gas at all. As the car moves up hill (still not using any gas) gently apply the foot brake and you will find the car will alter the mapping to accommodate the pressure (load) and still pull you up the hill. If it does not, then your car is either defective or you are too heavy on the controls. Don't forget driving a 4x4 is really a total reverse to driving a standard car.
Like the ABS and Hill decent, which use the same components, the cruise control and engine mapping are linked. That is why when accelerating hard from say a junction the car hesitates on occasions.
On the other hand if you are climbing a hill off road and you find the engine about to stall, it is necessary to floor the gas pedal for a second to tell the mapping to open up. The D3 is a very intelligent car if used properly.
15th Dec 2005 10:55 am
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starting in low 1st is indeed no problmen, but when you need to do this on the road, it's not that funny, with other cars behind you.
How and when will you shift back to high?
I had this problem several times when we went up the mountains in Corsica.
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15th Dec 2005 11:50 am
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Penguin wrote:
starting in low 1st is indeed no problmen, but when you need to do this on the road, it's not that funny, with other cars behind you.
How and when will you shift back to high?
I had this problem several times when we went up the mountains in Corsica.
(Fully loaded DIII pulling a fully loaded sankey)
No penguin, think we have a communication problem here. It is for a trial not always. Read it again please.
15th Dec 2005 3:46 pm
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urm, help me out then
I know by practice when putting it in low 1st, it got no problem on starting on a steep hill, with very low pressure on the throttle.
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15th Dec 2005 9:32 pm
BN
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Penguin wrote:
urm, help me out then
I know by practice when putting it in low 1st, it got no problem on starting on a steep hill, with very low pressure on the throttle.
it's a nightmare in 1st high when fully loaded
No you do not need any throttle at all, it will do it on its own and adjust for you. When it is moving, forget the throttel and then push the brake pedal gently, the car will compensate and still keep going. Remember, no throttle at all. When you have tried that we can progress.
The car will in fact pull away up a steep hill in high 1st without throttle.
15th Dec 2005 10:16 pm
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BN wrote:
The car will in fact pull away up a steep hill in high 1st without throttle.
Only if your damn good at clutch and brake control. Steep hills in high 1st can be a pain until you get used to the technique.
Slowly release the clutch until you feel the car starting to pull... then slowly release the foot brake and clutch together.
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