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A poo bag! I thought the least they could have done for Matt Baker was to let him goto a proper toilet Cheers Ian
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Eversleigh wrote:
L405 would seem the choice going forwards.
It works for Ben:
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21st Nov 2017 7:16 am
ronp
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Leaving poo bags aside and back to camera cars.
Is it not illegal to use a vehicle in such away on the UK highways?
I thought all occupants in such a vehicle (as the D4) must have to wear a seatbelt?
Is there special dispensation that can be had?
Or are the cameramen indeed belted in?...... always on the road less travelled 🚧
22nd Nov 2017 11:41 pm
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Quote:
Tracking shots
Tracking on public roads can only be done with the
permission of the police. Tracking shots (car-to-car) can
only be done from a specially modified tracking vehicle,
or from an estate or hatchback with the tailgate locked
and secured in the ‘up’ position. The police will not
normally allow this on public roads. Tracking in this
manner is only permissible on closed roads or private
land once the risks have been assessed and controls
put in place.
The camera operator should be seated with a seat belt
on. Care must be taken to ensure no loose objects will
fall out of the moving car - the camera and any other kit
must be secured with a safety line.
Tracking must not be done from the boots of saloon
cars, or from any open doors.
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Well - as I suspected ...... that rules out the D5 on yet another 'utility' front as I see it.... what is the use of the D5? - who's it meant for....? I certainly cannot figure?..... A pointless vehicle........ 2016MY Discovery HSE - Black
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23rd Nov 2017 12:24 am
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....but be honest ....are they going to make the D5 "cameraman" compliant for a handful of tv & film opportunities?
23rd Nov 2017 12:38 am
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I think the point Dannyson was making was that it was “yet another “utility front””.
No ones going to build a car just for film crews, but it’s like someone’s redesigned the claw hammer and for reasons of “style”, made it hopeless at a dozen things that we used to use it for. This is just one of them; it’s like having made the claws on the hammer out of porcelain, in order to make it nice and shiny, to appeal to new buyers who have little idea how a hammer is meant to work! 2011 - 2015: 3 x FL2
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24th Nov 2017 9:04 am
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Quote:
to appeal to new buyers who have little idea how a hammer is meant to work!
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The media might not be a mass market... but it is quite an influential one
What's the cumulative effect of everyone in the media industry saying the D5 is not as good as the D4 because it doesn't work for them any more? 2005 D3 HSE 2011 D4 Landmark 2016 D4 HSE Lux
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24th Nov 2017 1:08 pm
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The key point for which ruined everything for the D5 was this paragraph:
Quote:
The use of standard vehicles where filming is done through an open window and all the equipment is kept within the confines of the vehicle is not a major issue. It is important that the operator and their camera are secure in the vehicle. However filming from a moving vehicle when the operator is doing so through a raised tailgate or boot lid (e.g. an Volvo or Audi estate) would not be endorsed by us as a safe method of filming on the highway unless the vehicle is approved by manufacturer as having no loss of body strength when driven with tailgates/doors open. We have yet to find a manufacturer who would provide this endorsement for standard hatchback/estate cars as they tend to have no chassis but rely on a monocoque style body shell, which relies on the doors all being shut etc.
However some large 4 x 4 vehicles such as the Range Rover, BMW X5, Volvo XC90, Nissan Pathfinder, Toyota Landcruiser etc. where there is a split tailgate and the upper glass portion can be locked up in a raised position and the lower portion closed shut, results in no loss of strength to the vehicle in the event of a collision (endorsed by Range Rover) and are therefore an acceptable solution. Additionally filming from a cabriolet/soft top car with the roof down is also an acceptable method and should give you an unobstructed 270 degree view to the rear.
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24th Nov 2017 1:26 pm
jimbg
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Well there you go then, they can buy an Mazda MX5 and save heaps of money!
24th Nov 2017 1:40 pm
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Will there be a D5 cabriolet announced any time soon It can when others can't,
It will when others won't,
It goes where others don't.
24th Nov 2017 4:32 pm
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I wouldn't be at all surprised Cheers Ian
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Sounds like time for Gaz to get out his pencil & rubber then. ...... always on the road less travelled 🚧
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