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florance77
 


Member Since: 27 Aug 2014
Location: genova
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Italy 2009 Discovery 3 TDV6 HSE Auto Stornoway GreyDiscovery 3
Giri motore non stabili

ciao a tutti, da un po di tempo mantenendo il pedale dell'acceleratore ad "un filo di gas" a 1500 giri, in piano e a velocità costante, i giri del motore ballano da soli tra 1500 e 1700. Con il cruise inserito restano stabili, il problema emerge sia a freddo che a motore caldo....

secondo voi cosa può essere?

altro problemino: nella cambiata tra 2° e 3° il cambio tende a strappare, lo fa solo se si mantiene un regime costante e a bassi giri, se spingo un po di più sul gas non si avverte nulla, il cambio è stato tagliandato con lavaggio e cambio olio da circa 20.000 km...

mi si starà smontando la bestia???? Sad
 -Remap (230 cv)
-Egr blocked
-Downpipe dpf 😄
-Nav FFRR
-K&N air filter
-IIDTool
-A-Frame
-Raised Air Intake
-Front Protection Land Rover Passion
-Rear protection MDI 4X4
-Driving Light
-Front & Rear light guard
-Easy Lift by LRP
-Frontrunner
-Led bar & work light
-WinchMax 13500 lb
-Hidden Winch Plate by Land Rover Passion
-e come optional più presente: vari e continui errori diagnostici!!!!!!! 
 
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Sidestick
 


Member Since: 22 Apr 2012
Location: Rome
Posts: 2286

Italy 2008 Discovery 3 TDV6 HSE Auto Java BlackDiscovery 3

Ci sono tutti i sintomi di un convertitore di coppia andato...
 - Easy-Lift suspension module 4.0
- GoodWinch 9500 lb
- Full underbody protections
- Tree/Rock sidebars
- Prospeed roofrack & ladder
- Compressor guard
- Raised Air Intake
- Driving lights (2+4)
- 50 mm Waffle boards
- Altox Heater control
- Overland Rooftop Tent
- Rear seats entertainment
- Front & Rear camera
- GVIF
- Removable tow bar
- Cubby box fridge
- BFG KO2 265/65R17
- iidTool BT 
 
Post #186781112th Oct 2017 1:42 pm
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florance77
 


Member Since: 27 Aug 2014
Location: genova
Posts: 190

Italy 2009 Discovery 3 TDV6 HSE Auto Stornoway GreyDiscovery 3

side, no buono..... altre prove che possano confermare la diagnosi? chiaramente nel caso dovrò impegnare una cornea.......
 -Remap (230 cv)
-Egr blocked
-Downpipe dpf 😄
-Nav FFRR
-K&N air filter
-IIDTool
-A-Frame
-Raised Air Intake
-Front Protection Land Rover Passion
-Rear protection MDI 4X4
-Driving Light
-Front & Rear light guard
-Easy Lift by LRP
-Frontrunner
-Led bar & work light
-WinchMax 13500 lb
-Hidden Winch Plate by Land Rover Passion
-e come optional più presente: vari e continui errori diagnostici!!!!!!! 
 
Post #186799613th Oct 2017 7:40 am
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F355GTS
 


Member Since: 10 Nov 2008
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United Kingdom 2010 Discovery 4 3.0 TDV6 HSE Auto Buckingham BlueDiscovery 4

Se si aggiunge 'Dr Tranny' può talvolta rilasciare questi problemi

http://www.ebay.it/itm/Dr-Tranny-Lube-Auto...SwuxFY2i7a
 Mark 

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Post #186800213th Oct 2017 8:18 am
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Gazellio
 


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United Kingdom 2009 Discovery 4 TDV6 SE Auto Indus SilverDiscovery 4

^ As above go see the Dr....
  
Post #186800513th Oct 2017 8:33 am
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F355GTS
 


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United Kingdom 2010 Discovery 4 3.0 TDV6 HSE Auto Buckingham BlueDiscovery 4

http://www.ebay.it/itm/Dr-Tranny-Lube-Auto...SwuxFY2i7a
 Mark  
Post #186800613th Oct 2017 8:33 am
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Sidestick
 


Member Since: 22 Apr 2012
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Italy 2008 Discovery 3 TDV6 HSE Auto Java BlackDiscovery 3

questa è la soluzione momentanea più a buon mercato, con l'iidtool puoi verificare se l'oscillazione dei giri la fa a convertitore chiuso (a memoria, vai: live data,transmission, torque converter), se così è prima o poi dovrai fare l'operazione di sostituzione del convertitore.
Si fa smontando il solo cambio automatico e sostituendo l'intero piattello della frizione/convertitore.
Solitamente è il piattello frizione che si boccola.

Per la spesa mi dicono sui 1500€.

P.S. la rimappa ad un convertitore già kilometrato spesso gli dà il colpo di grazia
 - Easy-Lift suspension module 4.0
- GoodWinch 9500 lb
- Full underbody protections
- Tree/Rock sidebars
- Prospeed roofrack & ladder
- Compressor guard
- Raised Air Intake
- Driving lights (2+4)
- 50 mm Waffle boards
- Altox Heater control
- Overland Rooftop Tent
- Rear seats entertainment
- Front & Rear camera
- GVIF
- Removable tow bar
- Cubby box fridge
- BFG KO2 265/65R17
- iidTool BT 
 
Post #186801213th Oct 2017 8:47 am
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florance77
 


Member Since: 27 Aug 2014
Location: genova
Posts: 190

Italy 2009 Discovery 3 TDV6 HSE Auto Stornoway GreyDiscovery 3

ok, verifico. Poi mi dispero
 -Remap (230 cv)
-Egr blocked
-Downpipe dpf 😄
-Nav FFRR
-K&N air filter
-IIDTool
-A-Frame
-Raised Air Intake
-Front Protection Land Rover Passion
-Rear protection MDI 4X4
-Driving Light
-Front & Rear light guard
-Easy Lift by LRP
-Frontrunner
-Led bar & work light
-WinchMax 13500 lb
-Hidden Winch Plate by Land Rover Passion
-e come optional più presente: vari e continui errori diagnostici!!!!!!! 
 
Post #186805113th Oct 2017 11:21 am
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Antonello64
 


Member Since: 19 Oct 2009
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Italy 2005 Discovery 3 TDV6 HSE Auto Arctic FrostDiscovery 3

Buongiorno!!

Il mio cambio saltella in salita quando schiaccio l'accelleratore e non lo fa in piano.

Potrebbe essere il cambio oppure qualche perdita di potenza considerato che questo problema
me lo ha dato da quando ho utilizzato il famoso Bardalh prima di partire per le vacanze?

Mi vergogno a dire che ho utilizzato due flaconi insieme... Mr. Green Mr. Green
  
Post #187134123rd Oct 2017 9:15 am
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Antonello64
 


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Italy 2005 Discovery 3 TDV6 HSE Auto Arctic FrostDiscovery 3

Anche io ho il problema del convertitore?
  
Post #187134223rd Oct 2017 9:17 am
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Sidestick
 


Member Since: 22 Apr 2012
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Cosa c'entra il Bardhal con il cambio?
 - Easy-Lift suspension module 4.0
- GoodWinch 9500 lb
- Full underbody protections
- Tree/Rock sidebars
- Prospeed roofrack & ladder
- Compressor guard
- Raised Air Intake
- Driving lights (2+4)
- 50 mm Waffle boards
- Altox Heater control
- Overland Rooftop Tent
- Rear seats entertainment
- Front & Rear camera
- GVIF
- Removable tow bar
- Cubby box fridge
- BFG KO2 265/65R17
- iidTool BT 
 
Post #187139423rd Oct 2017 12:01 pm
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Antonello64
 


Member Since: 19 Oct 2009
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Italy 2005 Discovery 3 TDV6 HSE Auto Arctic FrostDiscovery 3

Ciao Sirio!!

Ho immaginato che il bardy possa aver "seccato" e di conseguenza aver creato un taglio nel tubo dell'intercooler tanto da non poter effettuare la cambiata per la perdita di potenza Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes
  
Post #187139923rd Oct 2017 12:10 pm
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Sidestick
 


Member Since: 22 Apr 2012
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Italy 2008 Discovery 3 TDV6 HSE Auto Java BlackDiscovery 3

Di che Bardhal parli? Del pulitore olio? Dell'additivo del gasolio? (suppongo il secondo)...

No quello non c'entra nulla, se il cambio saltella potrebbe essere il convertitore di coppia, ma i giri motore variano durante i saltelli?
 - Easy-Lift suspension module 4.0
- GoodWinch 9500 lb
- Full underbody protections
- Tree/Rock sidebars
- Prospeed roofrack & ladder
- Compressor guard
- Raised Air Intake
- Driving lights (2+4)
- 50 mm Waffle boards
- Altox Heater control
- Overland Rooftop Tent
- Rear seats entertainment
- Front & Rear camera
- GVIF
- Removable tow bar
- Cubby box fridge
- BFG KO2 265/65R17
- iidTool BT 
 
Post #187140423rd Oct 2017 12:19 pm
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Antonello64
 


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no...non variano Rolling Eyes
  
Post #187140823rd Oct 2017 12:23 pm
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Sidestick
 


Member Since: 22 Apr 2012
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Allora non ho capito "come " saltella sto cambio
 - Easy-Lift suspension module 4.0
- GoodWinch 9500 lb
- Full underbody protections
- Tree/Rock sidebars
- Prospeed roofrack & ladder
- Compressor guard
- Raised Air Intake
- Driving lights (2+4)
- 50 mm Waffle boards
- Altox Heater control
- Overland Rooftop Tent
- Rear seats entertainment
- Front & Rear camera
- GVIF
- Removable tow bar
- Cubby box fridge
- BFG KO2 265/65R17
- iidTool BT 
 
Post #187156923rd Oct 2017 6:37 pm
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