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An inch of snow in Grantown on Spey this morning!!!
9th Nov 2007 4:24 pm
bgsntth
Member Since: 27 Sep 2007
Location: Marin, CA
Posts: 23
Are the Vredstine Wintrac's an all-season tire or a winter-only tire, nothing I have read makes this abundantly clear. How do they do on dry/wet roads, hydroplane resistance, and dirt/mud? I would use these year round. I'm debating between these and Yokohama A/T-S 265/60-18's, but the Yoko's only have a Load Index of 110, which I'm probably more concerned about then I should be
Thanks!
9th Nov 2007 5:31 pm
Nigel Tracey
Member Since: 04 Nov 2006
Location: Lausanne
Posts: 395
Just started snowing here this evening as I look out of the window.
I know what I'm doing tomorrow morning, it involves a trip to the garage with a boot full of tyres !
You can't beat winter tyres in cold weather.
Remember that it's actually rare that you drive on "Virgin" snow where true off-road tyres and chains are useful. But you do very often drive on frozen roads where soft compound winter tyres are a must.
2 years ago the D3 shod with Scorpions had some close calls for these reasons. Now with the winters it changes everytingMrs Jones ? We've come for your Liver
9th Nov 2007 7:54 pm
dick dastardly
Member Since: 29 May 2007
Location: wiggleigh bottom
Posts: 1112
DSL wrote:
An inch of snow in Grantown on Spey this morning!!!
Expecting 1.5 meters in east switzerland over the weekend ! My winter Pirellis are on their way. M + S tyres just dont cut it on normal roads with just a little snow / ice cover. Better the soft winter rubber compound. Stopping 2.7 tonnes plus passengers an luggage from going in a straight line when you need to turn needs all the help you can get.There's one wheel on my wagon, but i'm still rollin' along, it's the cherokee, they're after me, but I'm singing a happy song
9th Nov 2007 10:59 pm
defender
Member Since: 20 Jan 2007
Location: Accrington
Posts: 36
Well we got a lot of snow last night and today and I was forced into getting winter tyres. Going up wasn't a problem but coming down was very very difficult. Had to use HDC just so I could go round corners. It was kind of embarrising when little fiat puntos where passing me without a problem! Just got some Pirreli Scorpion Ice and Snow tyres and it has made an amazing difference, been up and down the mountain without a problem, no spinning wheels and braking is vastly improved!
Here are a couple of photos from today.....
Here is what it's like when it's not full of snow!!
10th Nov 2007 12:38 pm
davesimmons
Member Since: 11 Feb 2006
Location: Alberta
Posts: 733
Looks great there, good to see the snow falling. I'm trying to sort out a lads trip to Austria first week of January, so seeing those pictures has inspired me
10th Nov 2007 1:12 pm
captain_sugar
Member Since: 05 Sep 2006
Location: Hradec Kralove
Posts: 1095
snow is starting here as well.
I got the pirellis Ice and snow which are good on snow and not so bad on mud.
And much cheaper than Michelins or continentals...
By the way, do you know that it's illegal in Germany to drive on summer or all season tyres after 1.10.?
I heard that you would automatically be held responsible for causing an accident if you are driving summer tyres, even if you aren't the one to blame...
10th Nov 2007 10:57 pm
captain_sugar
Member Since: 05 Sep 2006
Location: Hradec Kralove
Posts: 1095
defender wrote:
It was kind of embarrising when little fiat puntos where passing me without a problem!
Don't be embarrased! it's more a matter of (over) confidence of the punto driver.
Getting used to drive on snow is the matter. The Punto needs speed to keep moving.
And mostly, at lower speeds, even a drop aside of the road doesn't do too much damage due to the soft layer of snow everywhere.
Hmmm, got me thinking wonder if anyone has used either of these ?
ContiCrossContact Winter 235/70 R17 111T
Wintrac 4 xtreme 235/70 R17 111H XL
Maybe a good investment before I head to the alps in Jan, wonder if they would hold up to a weekend in Salisbury when I get back ? Too many questions, off to bed . . ."To finish first, one first has to finish ...."
10th Nov 2007 11:48 pm
defender
Member Since: 20 Jan 2007
Location: Accrington
Posts: 36
Our snow had nearly all gone from our area on Sunday, so we went looking elsewhere! The new tyres have definitely been zapped by a magic wand. We just kept going as high up the mountains as we could, and hardly saw anybody else at all, all other vehicles we saw had snow chains on... except us!
I threw together a video and stuck it on youtube..... Although photos do not do the place any justice really!
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13th Nov 2007 7:21 am
wavey66
Member Since: 25 May 2007
Location: Hertfordshire
Posts: 158
I'm off on a skiing holiday to Austria in Feb 08 and before then need to purchase a set of four new tyres for my TDV6 s.
I'm really looking for a steer from you guys as to whats the best set for me. I use the D3 for towing a horsebox every other weekend so theres plenty of driving round muddy fields, but the majority of driving is on road.
Just want to mention how flippin great the D3 is at towing - have to keep remembering we have the box and two horses in tow sometimes !!
I was just thinking of replacing the current scorpions like for like but having read this thread ( and a few others )wonder if there is a better alternative for me ?
Without wanting to start a huge debate are the scorpions ok for the kind of use I have or can you suggest a better option ?
Cheers all
13th Nov 2007 7:33 am
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Defender I was beginning to wonder how you managed to get so much snow in Accrington......
Defender - I've used MTR's for years on my Disco 2, and they were very very good in snow conditions. If I had 19" rims, that would be route I'd take, no question!
Wish I was there, facing an Austrian snowy winter, instead of facing an Australia hot summer (why is the grass always greener???).
cheers,
SimonD3 - Buckingham Blue, SE, TDV6, 06 model; chipped; underbody armour; Mickey Thompson ATZ 275/65-18 AND MAXXIS Bighorn muddies; rear wheel carrier from 4x4intelligence.com; iPOD aux connection! GME 3200 UHF - aerial mounted on wheel carrier ; LR roof rails/cross bars; Autosafe cargo barrier, Safari Snorkel; Traxide - aux battery; ARB bull bar with Tigerz11 winch; Lightforce 240 XGT driving lights (mitchell bros tow hitch to come)
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I was beginning to wonder how you managed to get so much snow in Accrington...... 
