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DG wrote:
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All that stuff we won't be buying from them if they don't play ball on a trade deal eh?! Wink
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I was just looking again and apart from the Olives and oranges, I cant see that there is anything on there that's not produced/grown in Britain,
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Need to get Liz Truss on the case Rolling with laughter





Dave Cameron got a firstclass ticket when he heard that Rolling with laughter Rolling with laughter
  
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DG wrote:
Brexit simplified Laughing



Rolling with laughter Rolling with laughter Rolling with laughter
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Laughing Laughing

London estate agents insist market is ‘booming’ after woman pays £1bn for house on Downing Street

http://newsthump.com/2017/06/26/london-est...ng-street/

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Quote:
Tories agree £1bn deal with DUP after finally locating elusive magic money tree

A magical tree on which government money grows has miraculously been found in time to secure a deal with the DUP, a government spokesperson has confirmed.


http://newsthump.com/2017/06/26/tories-agr...oney-tree/



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EU Brexit team absolutely delighted to see Tories out-negotiated by DUP for a billion quid

Brexit negotiators inside the EU could not be happier to see the UK government writing massive cheques when put under a little bit of pressure, according to sources in Brussels.


http://newsthump.com/2017/06/26/eu-brexit-...lion-quid/
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To be fair it's not just the town house you get for that money, it comes with a holiday cottage in Buckinghamshire.
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If we leave soon enough, can we get our £267m share of the EU Google fine, rather than it staying in Brussels?

Of course, that £267m is not included in the £350m a week, just as the unfunded liability accruals weren't.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-40406542
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Good summary looking at the UK proposal with practical examples and also highlighting where there might be differences UK vs EU

Reality Check: Your Brexit citizens questions answered

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-40409525
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It seems that UK citizen in EU are not happy with the proposal from May which might reduce the rights they currently have

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/...cial-lambs
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If Sue Wilson, chair of Bremain in Spain, is campaigning on behalf of an estimated 300,000 Britons living in the country, I'm Highlands, chair of Brego in the UK, campaigning on behalf of 65 million Britons living in the UK. Wink

The whole premise of:
'reciprocate EU proposals that would maintain status quo'
...
is wrong, in that the status quo is not an option.
We will have no representation in the ECJ, a political court, and no veto whatsoever over the political direction it is directed to take so there is no 'status quo'.

The UK MUST have UK courts, or at the VERY LEAST a neutral court, determining the law as it relates to people in the UK.
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You’re a broken record, Yawn Yawn It is clear what is written on your red bus Rolling with laughter Rolling with laughter

Lets see what the agreement will be which is what really matters. Also important to understand how the people affected reacts. At least now the positions of the people who has to negotiate are more clear so that is by itself a progress
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Riccardo wrote:
Good summary looking at the UK proposal with practical examples and also highlighting where there might be differences UK vs EU

Reality Check: Your Brexit citizens questions answered

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-40409525


Reading into the article:

Will UK-born children of EU nationals (living here more than 20 years) be able to register as British Citizens rather than naturalizing?
If a child is born in the UK after a parent acquires settled status, the child would automatically become British.
The lawyer advising us said: "The following question relating to children of EU nationals and citizenship is difficult to answer as UK nationality law is a very complex area.
"The scenario in the question raises numerous further questions. To be able to advise definitively we would need to know when the child was born in the UK (before or after the parent acquired settled status in the UK) as a child born in the UK after a parent acquires settled status would automatically become British.
"Separate to this, the child may also have become British after 10 years of residence in the UK, which would negate the need for registering as British."

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This answers my queries if further back in the post....
EC passport holders wanting to remain in the U.K. Past Brexit appear to have an "enduring" right that is passed down to children....
Surely if they want to stay, then presumably have to renew thier passports they ought then to have to take up a non EC - UK passport, thus relinquishing the EC part if thier nationality assuming a U.K. one.
OR
Will thier be a case for dual nationality status......?
Which in this case is like "asking for the cake & keeping the 'halfpenny"....a "Super-Status"....in excess of what a rank & file UK citizen have.[/i]
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highlands wrote:
I'm Highlands, chair of Brego in the UK, campaigning on behalf of 65 million Britons living in the UK. Wink


Can I be one of the 140,000 you missed off the UK population please...I don't want a serial fantasist campaigning on my behalf Laughing Laughing
  
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Re: Settlers achieve greater rights

BLFarrar wrote:

OR
Will thier be a case for dual nationality status......
Which in this case is like "asking for the cake & keeping the 'halfpenny"....a "Super-Status"....in excess of what a rank & file UK citizen have.[/i]


Dual nationality
They maintain what they already have now, same as a british citizen taking for example german nationality and wanting to stay in Germany after Brexit
No plots, no advantages for EU citizen in UK that are not also available for UK citizen in EU and the same that they have now. Surely it has to change for whoever comes after Brexit and UK will decide that

Regarding cakes even Mr Hammond today suggested “Wise words, with some applicability to the Brexit negotiations, although I try to discourage talk of ‘cake’ amongst my colleagues.” after mentioning “a compromise is the art of dividing a cake in such a way that everyone believes he has the biggest piece”. to mock what BJ said.


Really funny reading about this when I think about brexiters all concerned for those EU citizen in UK and viceversa and criticising EU who did not want to agree on the rights of this people before starting negotiation. Probably they knew UK wanted to reduce and limit their rights compared to what they have now!
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So by my reckoning.......

We had a referendum, it went 52/48 so post-ref' was always going to be 'difficult'.

The Conservative government are now to blame for Brexit despite it never being a party affiliated issue in the referendum (accepting some politicians/parties supported one way or another as per the general populace). It was one person, one vote and whatever your party allegiance you voted how YOU wanted it.

Theresa May didn't want Brexit but will do it because the people/referendum said we should do it.

All remainers will now fight her tooth and nail so she has to fight both the EU and the remainers.

The remainers will consider it a victory if we have to back-down, go 'soft', stay in the EU?

That leaves us with our knackers firmly clenched in the hands of the EU state in my opinion but that will be considered a victory by remainers Rolling Eyes
  
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