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The styling is growing on me I must say, however the tech isn't moving things on enough for me, if you wanted anything the D5 has in terms of tech you could have had it three years ago in a FFRR.
The practicality is still less and the lack of split tailgate a real shame and loss that takes the differentiator away and makes one now look at the many other rivals which due to not having a split tail you'd not have bothered with previously.
Drivetrain wise they are playing safe with the old tech but this isn't for me until hybrid comes out, they really showed a lack of bleeding edge and leading the market by not debuting new tech on this car.
Volvo, despite their teething troubles with the T8 are being far more innovative and working harder to be best in class. May be the D5.5 will be the one bit at the moment this is more of an exercise in style over anything useful or class leading MY15 DIY Black Pack (Better than factory and half the price!)
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11th Feb 2017 3:27 pm
J77
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discoteca wrote:
J77 wrote:
discoteca wrote:
J77 wrote:
D5 based on Solihulls finest, the FFRR, no need to worry about suspension.
That's a really valid point, it is based on the current FFRR. I don't care much for the styling discussion, actually it's ok in my eyes. Unfortunately it's a new car that in reality is a new body sitting on a 6 year old platform. In any other manufacturers terms that's old hat.
6 years ain't old. Considering the DS and Evoque are still running around on modified Freelander platforms. The all aluminium D7u platform is as modern as it gets, why change it? It's an adaptable platform.
Each to their own opinion but afraid I don't agree. The platform is over 6 years old, in usual modern model cycles the replacement for that platform should already be 80% ready. Note, I didn't say it would stop me from having one (hey using my logic my 2016 D4 is essentially 12 year old technology) or that there was any particular issue with that, more a statement of fact as I see it.
The D7u platform has only been in production since 2012, L405 FFRR was the first to receive it the platform was intended to be adaptable.23.5MY Defender 90 X-Dynamic SE D250 MHEV Pangea Green
11th Feb 2017 3:34 pm
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dubbs wrote:
The styling is growing on me I must say, however the tech isn't moving things on enough for me, if you wanted anything the D5 has in terms of tech you could have had it three years ago in a FFRR.
The practicality is still less and the lack of split tailgate a real shame and loss that takes the differentiator away and makes one now look at the many other rivals which due to not having a split tail you'd not have bothered with previously.
Drivetrain wise they are playing safe with the old tech but this isn't for me until hybrid comes out, they really showed a lack of bleeding edge and leading the market by not debuting new tech on this car.
Volvo, despite their teething troubles with the T8 are being far more innovative and working harder to be best in class. May be the D5.5 will be the one bit at the moment this is more of an exercise in style over anything useful or class leading
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11th Feb 2017 4:52 pm
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The D5 can do so much more than Hyundai/Kia plus all the rest. I had a Tucson then a Santa Fe, good cars but not a patch on the Disco, D5 included.23.5MY Defender 90 X-Dynamic SE D250 MHEV Pangea Green
11th Feb 2017 4:57 pm
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Couldn't have put it better Thumbs Up LR is being left behind and have decided to compete in a very crowded space where any Euro / Korean SUV will do pretty much the same job. Shame really. Sad
Oh dear.
Despite the D5 being the best off-roading car far better than any other Discovery models people are comparing it to non Off roaders.
It's not compulsory to buy a D5, you can still keep your D4's.Peter
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11th Feb 2017 5:13 pm
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J77 wrote:
The D7u platform has only been in production since 2012, L405 FFRR was the first to receive it the platform was intended to be adaptable.
Yes, obviously, as I said over 6 years old assuming they didn't develop it in a day....
It is adaptable - clearly given it already has given rise to three different models and soon a fourth - that doesn't make it any newer though.
11th Feb 2017 5:54 pm
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Re: it's adaptable....
The first practical petrol engine was built in 1876
I'm assuming it's evolved since then Peter
11th Feb 2017 6:11 pm
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11th Feb 2017 6:25 pm
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Despite the D5 being the best off-roading car far better than any other Discovery models people are
Is there any evidence to support this statement? I have seen nothing to show that pushed to the limits the D5 is any better than anything else. Indeed everything I've seen on various videos is stuff my works Shogun could do. This is not to stay the D5 is not capable but until there is some actual evidence any assertion that it is the best ever is as delusional as Corbyn supporters saying he'll win the next election.
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11th Feb 2017 6:37 pm
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Being back something brutal like the camel trophy and let's see how well these cars can cope ! Now that would be something !Jarrod
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11th Feb 2017 6:41 pm
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At last some decent replies Peter
11th Feb 2017 6:48 pm
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Not sure this is "evidence" but a positive review from a journalist who has driven FFRR & pro wranglers
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11th Feb 2017 7:37 pm
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Did someone say Wranglers?
This is my 2016 Rubicon that I am trading in for a D5 I have on order now. D5 build date, June 2017.
11th Feb 2017 9:28 pm
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