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NJSS
Member Since: 06 May 2009
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Interesting comment:-
Quote:While we can’t drive on road
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J77
Member Since: 03 Mar 2008
Location: Fife
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Prototypes aren't road legal, I think. 23.5MY Defender 90 X-Dynamic SE D250 MHEV Pangea Green
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| 12th Dec 2016 10:31 am |
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RDR
Member Since: 24 Mar 2013
Location: Derbyshire
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The ones doing the rounds at the dealers are not. No airbags and beta engine management software. MY06 S - Gone but not forgotten
MY12 HSE - Gone
MY16 HSE Luxury - Sold
MY20 D5 HSE - Sold
Current RR L460 PHEV
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| 12th Dec 2016 11:54 am |
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James W
Member Since: 27 Mar 2008
Location: Riyadh, KSA
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Fantastic set of photos  D4 XS, gone, much loved, never forgotten
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| 12th Dec 2016 12:03 pm |
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sacimiddx
Member Since: 09 Mar 2007
Location: hants
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its not a prototype - it's an early production model
the 'review' is largely a waste of print Illegitimi Non Carborundum
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| 12th Dec 2016 7:07 pm |
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Russell
Member Since: 23 Aug 2007
Location: Kent
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J77 wrote:Prototypes aren't road legal, I think.
There are plenty of road legal ones running around, only got to go up around Solihull and you will see them by the bucket load. MY17 D5 1st Edition Namib Orange
MY15 D4 HSE Kaikoura Stone
MY12 D4 HSE Nara Bronze Sold and gone
MY11 D4 HSE Stornaway Grey Sold and gone
D3 S spec Silver Sold and gone
Tow bar, full length roof bars, side steps, tow bar storage unit, surround camers.
D4 camera club
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| 12th Dec 2016 7:34 pm |
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RDR
Member Since: 24 Mar 2013
Location: Derbyshire
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Other interesting fact (or i thought it was) the LR guys said all the Pre Production ones on the tour will be crushed at the end, none will survive. Not so sure about the Prototypes guess they may save one or two for posterity. I think prototypes are allowed on the road with some hoops to jump through like fuel cutoff and dead mans switches etc. MY06 S - Gone but not forgotten
MY12 HSE - Gone
MY16 HSE Luxury - Sold
MY20 D5 HSE - Sold
Current RR L460 PHEV
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| 12th Dec 2016 8:23 pm |
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Red Merle
Member Since: 30 Aug 2014
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I believe that there are good tax reasons for crushing prototypes, as there is a lot of instant write down to be had from the destruction of a car whose current value is a great deal less than it cost to build. They are also usually in a bad way and the last thing they want cropping up cheaply in the used market when the car is still so new. 2011 - 2015: 3 x FL2
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| 12th Dec 2016 8:49 pm |
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Russell
Member Since: 23 Aug 2007
Location: Kent
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RDR wrote:Other interesting fact (or i thought it was) the LR guys said all the Pre Production ones on the tour will be crushed at the end, none will survive. Not so sure about the Prototypes guess they may save one or two for posterity. I think prototypes are allowed on the road with some hoops to jump through like fuel cutoff and dead mans switches etc.
Correct when we went on the Gayden tour there was a compound full and I mean full of loads and loads of different LR/RR vehicles all waiting for tax man to come along and authorize their destruction. Some looked brand new............. MY17 D5 1st Edition Namib Orange
MY15 D4 HSE Kaikoura Stone
MY12 D4 HSE Nara Bronze Sold and gone
MY11 D4 HSE Stornaway Grey Sold and gone
D3 S spec Silver Sold and gone
Tow bar, full length roof bars, side steps, tow bar storage unit, surround camers.
D4 camera club
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| 12th Dec 2016 9:00 pm |
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Gareth
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Probably down to the corporation tax relief, for R&D.
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| 12th Dec 2016 9:15 pm |
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DG
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Member Since: 12 Dec 2005
Location: The Gaff
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sacimiddx wrote:its not a prototype - it's an early production model
the 'review' is largely a waste of print
Another wasted 'prototype' review ?
http://www.topgear.com/car-reviews/land-ro...irst-drive 21 year LR veteran > D2 GS 2003 > D3 S 2006 > D3 HSE 2009 > D4 HSE 2013 > D4 HSE 2015 > D5 HSE 2018 > DS HSE R-Dynamic P300e 2021
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| 12th Dec 2016 9:31 pm |
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Gareth
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The last paragraph says it all.
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| 12th Dec 2016 9:42 pm |
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jimbg
Member Since: 19 Apr 2013
Location: UK
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You mean - They would have one in a heartbeat?
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| 12th Dec 2016 10:16 pm |
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RRSTDV8
Member Since: 07 Apr 2014
Location: Here
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J77 wrote:Prototypes aren't road legal, I think.
I saw one t'other week on the road. It had "prototype vehicle" stencilled on it too just to prove the point. Presumably there are insurance issues that limit who can drive them on the public road. Visiting from rrsport.co.uk
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| 12th Dec 2016 10:45 pm |
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