a11geo
Member Since: 06 Nov 2010
Location: Rhoose
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Usually happend after I'd been on the motorway for 5-10 miles. Slow down to about 40 and it would disappear. Gave me a right fright the first time as I was on my way to get a gearbox leak fixed and I thought I'd lost the box. MY12 D4 HSE Marmaris Teal
MY08 D3 XS Java Black - gone
MY03 D2 ES Zambesi Silver - gone
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 9th Jun 2016 6:14 pm |
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norfolkfred
Member Since: 07 Oct 2015
Location: gorleston Norfolk United kingdom
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cheers Russell, I have used disco locally today and nothing at all, due to visit London tomorrow so will be interesting to see what happens on the 140 mile trip each way....I will post up any developments thanks again.
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| 9th Jun 2016 6:16 pm |
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norfolkfred
Member Since: 07 Oct 2015
Location: gorleston Norfolk United kingdom
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did the long runs and did not miss a beat now about 450 miles on and no sign of the judder I will check the drum handbrake parts this week but am a little confused as ever, many thanks to all.
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| 19th Jun 2016 9:26 am |
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HughMartin
Member Since: 30 Mar 2008
Location: Aberdeenshire
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As mentioned previously, mine does the same occasionally. Normally my rear brakes are stone cold after a journey so next time it happens, I am going to try and keep driving for 5 minutes or so with the vibration and then stop and feel the brakes to see if there is an increase in temperature around the rear brake drum.
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| 19th Jun 2016 10:55 am |
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jonathan.day
Member Since: 10 May 2013
Location: surrey
Posts: 15
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Does it come from the front or the rear?? Can you tell?
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| 19th Jun 2016 12:12 pm |
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norfolkfred
Member Since: 07 Oct 2015
Location: gorleston Norfolk United kingdom
Posts: 20
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it's impossible to tell if front or back and as it starts feels like an uneven road surface then goes onto very harsh rumble strips it can last for a few miles in which time I have tried all sorts of things form changing gear with the shift command putting into neutral gentle braking and even harsh braking which slightly makes it worse then it fades and I continue with no more sign of a fault, as with all intermittent faults it's very difficult to track down.
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| 20th Jun 2016 7:57 am |
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Slobbox
Member Since: 10 Jul 2015
Location: Ribble Valley
Posts: 307
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Check you calliper guide pins I've had the same on a few LRs and the pins have been stuck. Next time it does it try and pull over as soon as possible and check wheel temp
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| 20th Jun 2016 8:12 am |
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norfolkfred
Member Since: 07 Oct 2015
Location: gorleston Norfolk United kingdom
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cheers slob box I have renewed the rear calipers and the front pins are free moving this happens just driving and always many miles after touching the brakes on cruise control at about 65 last time, spent all day yesterday sorting wet floor passenger side flooded by blocked sunroof drain pipe lots of water 3 litres in footwell and all over wires down there, could this be a possible electrical short applying dsc or antilock brakes,is any of that affected by water in footwell....
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| 21st Jun 2016 7:30 am |
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M3DPO
Member Since: 22 Sep 2010
Location: Notts.
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Have you had the rear drums off and cleaned them out, amazing the amount of dust that collects in there, I do mine religiously every 6 months and never had this problem.
If dust balls and is held in position by centrifugal force if will throw the wheel(s) out of balance, my theory anyway. It can when others can't,
It will when others won't,
It goes where others don't.
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| 21st Jun 2016 7:57 am |
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euangibson
Member Since: 24 Dec 2010
Location: Borders
Posts: 11027
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I had had this recently....I thought 4-wheel alignment had cured it,but it came back yesterday. 
http://www.disco3.co.uk/forum/topic143385.html "Better to remain silent and be thought a fool,than to speak out and remove all doubt" ?.....what rubbish...
Locking rear E-diff
RLD spare wheel protector & sump guard
Extended roof rails
Series 111 mudflaps
Black side tubes,grill and vents
Timed climate remote
Hids4u interior lights
D4 Firenze my2012 HSE
D3 Java 2005 SE manual (sold,sadly,thanks for the memories)
1966 '88 Series 2a....still starts in the morning better than I do...
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| 21st Jun 2016 8:04 am |
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Moo
D3 Decade
Member Since: 13 Aug 2010
Location: Wiltshire
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I have this. I also have juddering under braking so I know I need to replace my front discs becuase they must be warped. If my disks are warped could this be the problem? New Defender L663 110 SE (known as Noddy!)
Sold Volvo XC90 R-Design (known as Basil)
Sold - D4 HSE (Known as Gerty)
No longer the Old Buses original owner 
231,000 miles and counting
05 S manual owned from March 2005
D4 Face lifted
Still original injectors and turbo
V8 Front brakes
BAS Remap, Allisport Intercooler and deCat
EGRs blanked
T-Max split charge
Hanibal Expeedition rack
Prospeed ladder
Duratrac tyres
IID BT
BAS FBH control
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| 21st Jun 2016 8:11 am |
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euangibson
Member Since: 24 Dec 2010
Location: Borders
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I have that too,but think it's a separate issue....I just discovered my local guy has a machine to skim discs....I'm booking it in shortly,so I'll report back  "Better to remain silent and be thought a fool,than to speak out and remove all doubt" ?.....what rubbish...
Locking rear E-diff
RLD spare wheel protector & sump guard
Extended roof rails
Series 111 mudflaps
Black side tubes,grill and vents
Timed climate remote
Hids4u interior lights
D4 Firenze my2012 HSE
D3 Java 2005 SE manual (sold,sadly,thanks for the memories)
1966 '88 Series 2a....still starts in the morning better than I do...
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| 21st Jun 2016 8:27 am |
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norfolkfred
Member Since: 07 Oct 2015
Location: gorleston Norfolk United kingdom
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hi all, and thanks for the replies, this judder is much worse than a wheel or two out of balance and it cures itself as quick as it starts. the slightly warped brake discs would only really be felt when braking as the pads would be pushed back as soon as the brakes are released. there seems to be numerous ideas for this fault from the auto gearbox torque converter to handbrake mechanism and many bits in between, the next time it happens I will be ready with temperature checks etc as I feel it must be in the braking system somewhere, I still wonder if it could be the stability system throwing a wobbly but no lights come on as ever very confused,of Gorleston on Sea, thanks again
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| 21st Jun 2016 8:39 am |
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HughMartin
Member Since: 30 Mar 2008
Location: Aberdeenshire
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My vibration reappeared yesterday when driving about 50mph. I drove on for about 3 lies and then coasted to a stop without applying the brakes. When I felt the rear drums, the right one was quite warm while the left one was stone cold. I am going to re adjust the parking brakes using Bodsy's bible and will let you know how I get on.
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| 21st Jun 2016 9:32 am |
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Randylover
Member Since: 31 Jan 2011
Location: Staffordshire
Posts: 1172
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Mine did this, when stripped the rear brakes one of the clips on the handbrake shoes had come of and shoe was loose occasionally sitting in the wrong position and binding
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| 21st Jun 2016 9:37 am |
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