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engine light loss of power in D

could not pull of the drive ( quiet steep) yestrerday, no power at all whilst in drive. shifted to manual selection and managed to pull off in 1st. car performed fine once got going but the engine warning light has stayed on. tried switch off and sleep but light still on. put back on drive and had no issues. car had a new engine fitted 30/09/15 before i brought it ( unbeknown to me)
 D3 HSE 57 Buckingham Blue
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Having codes read in garage where purchased , glad I took warranty out .
 D3 HSE 57 Buckingham Blue
box re-build
new TC

common sense is not common 
 
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United Kingdom 2008 Discovery 3 TDV6 HSE Auto Buckingham BlueDiscovery 3

had the codes read,
p0114
p2199 air intake sensors.
any suggestions on codes

all reset and took for blast along motorway, no problems and car went smooth at all speeds
 D3 HSE 57 Buckingham Blue
box re-build
new TC

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Am I right in thinking that "pz199" should be "P2199 - Intake air temperature 1/2 correlation"?

Can you get readings from the Intake Air Temperature sensor and and the Boost Temperature sensor?

Sounds like a dodgy sensor (or wiring), or blocked intercooler (but thinking not the latter if it's intermittent). Thumbs Up
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back from garage so unable to get the readings. keeping a log of conditions if any probs occur again and will get the readings as suggested if it goes pete tong again.
 D3 HSE 57 Buckingham Blue
box re-build
new TC

common sense is not common 
 
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Shame the garage didn't look at them on seeing the codes, though it might be difficult to observe if it's only intermittent.
 Current: Discovery 3 06MY (55 reg) HSE Auto Zambezi Silver Zambezi Silver Allisport Fast Road Intercooler, V8 Brakes, Silicone IC Hoses, EGRs Blanked, Remapped, De-Cat pipe, FBHIC
Freelander 2 2007 HSE Manual Tambora Flame
Previous: FL2 56 reg SE Manual Black (written off Sad )
Disco 3 06 reg B7S Manual Rimini Red Rimini Red
Disco 2 TD5 Y reg ES Manual Blue - Chipped Very Happy
Several Discovery 300 TDis
 
 
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Car back in garage , air intake temperature sensor . They have never heard of this one , hope it's a simple fix. Anyone else had this one go faulty
 D3 HSE 57 Buckingham Blue
box re-build
new TC

common sense is not common 
 
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The IAT sensor is part of the MAF meter, so simple to change, not hugely cheap, but not hugely expensive either. Thumbs Up
 Current: Discovery 3 06MY (55 reg) HSE Auto Zambezi Silver Zambezi Silver Allisport Fast Road Intercooler, V8 Brakes, Silicone IC Hoses, EGRs Blanked, Remapped, De-Cat pipe, FBHIC
Freelander 2 2007 HSE Manual Tambora Flame
Previous: FL2 56 reg SE Manual Black (written off Sad )
Disco 3 06 reg B7S Manual Rimini Red Rimini Red
Disco 2 TD5 Y reg ES Manual Blue - Chipped Very Happy
Several Discovery 300 TDis
 
 
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Only had it 4 weeks so will be covered by garage hopefully
 D3 HSE 57 Buckingham Blue
box re-build
new TC

common sense is not common 
 
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What symptoms would you expected from its failure
 D3 HSE 57 Buckingham Blue
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Lack of power, maybe black smoke, poor fuel economy, ESF messages and the sort of fault codes you're getting. Thumbs Up

(Not to say it's the only cause of the above symptoms though.)
 Current: Discovery 3 06MY (55 reg) HSE Auto Zambezi Silver Zambezi Silver Allisport Fast Road Intercooler, V8 Brakes, Silicone IC Hoses, EGRs Blanked, Remapped, De-Cat pipe, FBHIC
Freelander 2 2007 HSE Manual Tambora Flame
Previous: FL2 56 reg SE Manual Black (written off Sad )
Disco 3 06 reg B7S Manual Rimini Red Rimini Red
Disco 2 TD5 Y reg ES Manual Blue - Chipped Very Happy
Several Discovery 300 TDis
 
 
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The IAT needs to have some diagnosis before spending money on a new MAF. Live data from a good diagnostic tool will report the sensed temperature which you can then compare with the actual. Another option is back-probing the sensor itself to see the value it is reporting. It is also possible to cheat the IAT sensor values with suitable resistors.

Back-probing a D4 MAF/IAT:

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Update: garage said they have swapped the sensor which was chucking out error codes but problems are still existing so it seems the air intake temp was not the main issue. They are suggesting EGR's now Sad . Would have them blanked but I believe there is no work around for this engine (57)
 D3 HSE 57 Buckingham Blue
box re-build
new TC

common sense is not common 
 
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Find a better garage as I am not convinced these guys know how to diagnose modern engine systems.

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garage where only able to do an hour or so yesteray as left it in there care to fit in at the earliest.should know more today if they have the time . if it is the EGR's would it be best to blank them ? can the ECU be fooled by a re-map to switch off the ECR's to prevent error codes etc.
 D3 HSE 57 Buckingham Blue
box re-build
new TC

common sense is not common 
 
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