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had two drivers convicted of driving without due care and one for dangerous driving over the past 12 months...each case video footage supplied to plod and used as evidence in court..
my d3 is registered in company name, nowt has been said...however am registered under DPA as I take contact details from prospective clients via our website..
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11th Oct 2015 12:36 am |
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lynalldiscovery
Member Since: 22 Dec 2009
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I cant remember who told me but a plod had told them it was police policy in any accident to check if any of the vehicles involved had cameras fitted, mainly I think to find out what really happened.
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11th Oct 2015 1:31 am |
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HughMartin
Member Since: 30 Mar 2008
Location: Aberdeenshire
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In fact domestic cameras are not exempt from the principles of the Data Protection Act if monitoring areas outside your private property.
See below from the information commissioner website.
https://ico.org.uk/for-the-public/cctv/
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If your camera covers, even partially, any areas beyond the boundaries of your property, such as neighbouring gardens or the street, then it will no longer be exempt from the Data Protection Act (DPA) under the domestic purposes exemption. This does not mean that you are breaching the DPA but it does mean that you are subject to it.
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11th Oct 2015 4:57 am |
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DG
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That it seems is correct however the same advisor clarifies in more detail ....
ico.org.uk wrote:
Domestic purposes
The most comprehensive exemption applies when personal data is processed by a data controller who is an individual (not an organisation) only for the purposes of their personal, family or household affairs.
Example
An individual keeps a database of their friends’ and relatives’ names, addresses and dates of birth on their PC. They use the database for keeping track of birthdays and to produce address labels for Christmas cards. The domestic purposes exemption applies to this type of processing.
Example
An individual records the highlights of their summer holiday on a digital camcorder. The recording includes images of people they meet on holiday. Although those digital images are personal data, the domestic purposes exemption applies.
None of the data protection principles apply in these circumstances, nor do any of the rights which the Act gives to data subjects. There is also no need to notify the ICO about processing for these purposes.
So there is an almost total exemption from the Data Protection Act for individuals who just use personal data for their own domestic and recreational purposes. However, the Act still applies to the extent that the ICO may investigate if someone seems to have gone beyond the scope of the exemption, and we may take enforcement action where necessary.
and if you read between the lines the ruling is to be largely ignored by the ICO in any case ...
ico.org.uk wrote:The Court of Justice of the European Union (CJEU) issued its judgment in
the case of Ryneš on 11 December 2014. In this judgment, the CJEU
concluded that where a fixed surveillance camera faces outwards from an
individual’s private domestic property and it captures images of
individuals beyond the boundaries of their property, particularly where it
monitors a public space, the recording cannot be considered as being for
a purely personal or household purpose.
This means that cameras attached to a private individual’s home may, in
certain circumstances, no longer be exempt from the requirements of the
DPA under section 36. Those circumstances are likely to include where the
camera monitors any area beyond the interior and exterior limits of that
individual’s home. This would include any camera to the extent that it
covered, even partially, a public space such as the pavement or street. It
would also cover cameras which captured areas such as neighbours’
gardens.
This decision does not mean that using such a camera is not possible but
it does mean that individuals will have to ensure that its use is legitimate
under the DPA. The CJEU made clear that use of cameras to protect a
property in this way can meet the legitimate interest condition in the
legislation. The ICO has produced a short complementary piece of
guidance for the public on how to ensure the use of a surveillance camera
on a private domestic property complies with the DPA.
The ICO will continue to assess the potential wider impact of the CJEU’s
decision on other surveillance technologies and may add further updates
to this code.
This code is primarily aimed at businesses and organisations that
routinely capture individuals’ information on their surveillance systems.
Some specific uses of image recording equipment are not intended to be
covered in this code, although they may still be covered by the
requirements of the DPA.
Unless you are a business or organisation then I would worry not ! 21 year LR veteran > D2 GS 2003 > D3 S 2006 > D3 HSE 2009 > D4 HSE 2013 > D4 HSE 2015 > D5 HSE 2018 > DS HSE R-Dynamic P300e 2021
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11th Oct 2015 7:27 am |
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sarumlight
Member Since: 07 Nov 2008
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But if you use your car on your employers business, or for a voluntary organisation they should have thought about it.
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11th Oct 2015 7:50 am |
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DG
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If you are using a your own vehicle on business purposes then it's a fairly grey area. Personally I wouldn't worry about signage on a privately owned vehicle. 21 year LR veteran > D2 GS 2003 > D3 S 2006 > D3 HSE 2009 > D4 HSE 2013 > D4 HSE 2015 > D5 HSE 2018 > DS HSE R-Dynamic P300e 2021
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11th Oct 2015 8:14 am |
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HughMartin
Member Since: 30 Mar 2008
Location: Aberdeenshire
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I totally agree.
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11th Oct 2015 8:51 am |
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dadof7kids
Member Since: 23 Aug 2011
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C I D have twice asked for cctv footage over the last 2 years cos my cameras cover my drive, the road and path on the other side as well they ant bothered java Black D3 gone : (
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11th Oct 2015 6:52 pm |
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Davethegeo
Member Since: 01 Oct 2015
Location: Edinburgh
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Thanks all. A lot of good advice. Don't think I'll worry overly about signs for the D4. Now...if only I could decide on which webcam(s) to use...
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12th Oct 2015 10:36 pm |
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NoDo$h
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Having spent an hour or so with Christopher Graham last week I can say with reasonable certainty that you're pretty safe without stickers.
Just don't host your data in the US until further notice I know it's not considered "kind" to say no these days, but no. Just no, ok? And if it's not ok, still no.
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12th Oct 2015 11:09 pm |
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DG
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Quote:Having spent an hour or so with Christopher Graham last week
Did you have to wk him off again Al ? 21 year LR veteran > D2 GS 2003 > D3 S 2006 > D3 HSE 2009 > D4 HSE 2013 > D4 HSE 2015 > D5 HSE 2018 > DS HSE R-Dynamic P300e 2021
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12th Oct 2015 11:17 pm |
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NoDo$h
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That would be a subject access request...... I know it's not considered "kind" to say no these days, but no. Just no, ok? And if it's not ok, still no.
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12th Oct 2015 11:49 pm |
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DG
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21 year LR veteran > D2 GS 2003 > D3 S 2006 > D3 HSE 2009 > D4 HSE 2013 > D4 HSE 2015 > D5 HSE 2018 > DS HSE R-Dynamic P300e 2021
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12th Oct 2015 11:52 pm |
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Ask him if he used his hand this time. I'm not speaking to him. Club Exped trailer
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13th Oct 2015 7:41 am |
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NoDo$h
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When I said I was going to give you a foot and that it would hurt, I wasn't technically lying. I know it's not considered "kind" to say no these days, but no. Just no, ok? And if it's not ok, still no.
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13th Oct 2015 9:42 pm |
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