I've changed loads of wheels in my time, a good number on Discos too. Can't beat a simple trolley jack and an extendable Draper wrench....... Never use the cars jack etc. However, after 16 months of ownership, I decided to check out the squeak from my rear brakes by doing a wheel off inspection......
If you have never changed a wheel on your D3 - pick a nice day, park on some level tarmac and give it a whirl. You might be surprised by the (lack of) acceptable result.
Two (sub-standard) 2-ton trolley jacks (Halfrauds £15 jobs). Four Axle stands (without enough reach). Four blocks of 3" wood and a good few additional planks and I still wouldn't choose to work under the car lorry.
Be Warned - this is only a 'car' when all four wheels are on the ground. Once you start to lift it up you can forget any notions of a family motor vehicle. It's a big old bus and it probably weighs the same as a double decker
I don't want my garage to look a branch of Kwik-Botch so I'm off to get a 'proper' air jack and perhaps some decent axle stands too. I'm only glad that I didn't dscover all this as the result of a puncture in the middle of winter, in the dark, and the cold & wet, at the side of a slushy dual-carriageway The older I get, the more I realise that people confuse wrinkles for wisdom
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9th Jul 2007 10:14 pm
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After my recent wheel purchase, my next thought was turning to a decent jack. I can't justify an air jackl at the moment, but I'd really really love one, so have been trawlign arounf looking for a 3.5t long trolley jack. Can seem to get one for about £120!!!!
I guess I'll wait out for that really nice day to give it a whirl!! & then curse & wish I'd spent the £120! Bodsys Brake Bible
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I've got a quick lift 2t, just wasn't sure it would stand up to the D3. Certainly I don't think it's got the height, but we'll see when I sneak the new wheels round......
TBH what I'll probably do is take the new set of wheels & find out how much a tyre fitter will charge to take off the tyres from both sets and put the Scorpions on th balck set. Then I can sell teh Conti's to an RRS or X5 owner. Helps me get somethign back for the wheels. Then all I've got to do is save up some wedge for some 19" MTR's! That'll have to wait for the next bonus day in October I think!
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9th Jul 2007 11:22 pm
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Don't forget, the weight limits marked on jacks are the TOTAL weight lifted, not the overall weight of the vehicle. ie, a D3 weighs 2.7 tons. Lifting up one side so that the weight is split between two tyres on the ground and the jack means 1.35 tons on the jack, easily within the range of a 2ton jack.
However remember, as JMC rightly pointed out, the D3 is very heavy. You should place onto stable axle stands before carrying out any work.
10th Jul 2007 1:45 am
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...and ISTR the manual says to put it in off road height to change a wheel. 21 year LR veteran > D2 GS 2003 > D3 S 2006 > D3 HSE 2009 > D4 HSE 2013 > D4 HSE 2015 > D5 HSE 2018 > DS HSE R-Dynamic P300e 2021
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It's also important to have a door ajar. If she's still awake and goes into extended mode whilst jacking, it's really hard to get a wheel of the ground!Have a nice day!
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10th Jul 2007 4:17 am
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I use a Sealey 3T rocket lift (Troley Jack), this gives enough height to get the wheel off even if it goes extended. I also have a 2ft (600mm) breaker bar with a special socket for alloy wheels and torque whrench for putting it all back together again.
I would agree with the previous posts don't even try with the equipment supplied in the vehicle, I had the correct equipment when I had my first puncture but it was p g down, dark and cold. So glad I had good tools.2012 D4 - SDV6 XS - Firenze Red
10th Jul 2007 6:25 am
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DG wrote:
You shouldn't really need a 3.5 tonner Bods ...2 or 3 tonne will do.... have a look here
Had a look at Machine Mart as I too need a trolley jack, but which one to go for? My inclination is the 2 tonne 'long' jack to give the extra reach needed for the D3. Do you jack in the normal place or on one of the wishbones with these? ISTR most trolley jacks don't have the height to jack on the normal chassis point.2020 BMW X1 18d XDrive X-Line Auto
I got a reconditioned one of these:
off ebay (it's a Premier 2ton Long Reach Super Rocket Lift Sealey 2000LQ)
It's great, and it has no problem lifting the car on it's standard jacking points. Of course, it helps to start in off road height, it gives the D3 fewer options for escaping the 'obstacle'.
10th Jul 2007 6:48 am
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Does anyone know the height needed to lift the D3 on the standard point?
Could measure the standard jack I suppose, but does enyone already know?2020 BMW X1 18d XDrive X-Line Auto
10th Jul 2007 7:45 am
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I opened my standard scissor jack right up a few months back and measured it at around 50cm.Dr. Ian Malcolm:
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My Halfords High-Lift 2.5t jack is more than adequate for a wheel change, but nowhere near man enough to get the car up to a height where you would want to work under it. One of the reasons for getting a Takla 8)I know it's not considered "kind" to say no these days, but no. Just no, ok? And if it's not ok, still no.
10th Jul 2007 8:34 am
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..it does the job very well ..when lifting on tarmac though remember to keep a piece of marine ply handy to allow the jack wheels to move with the lift of the motor ...otherwise they sink and the D3 is likely to drop off 21 year LR veteran > D2 GS 2003 > D3 S 2006 > D3 HSE 2009 > D4 HSE 2013 > D4 HSE 2015 > D5 HSE 2018 > DS HSE R-Dynamic P300e 2021
10th Jul 2007 8:58 am
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stapldm wrote:
I opened my standard scissor jack right up a few months back and measured it at around 50cm.
Hmm, I thought as much, most trolley jacks lift to only 39cm so nowhere near enough, maybe locked in access height with a door ajar it would be OK?2020 BMW X1 18d XDrive X-Line Auto
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g down, dark and cold. So glad I had good tools.
