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Bigcol66
 


Member Since: 28 Jul 2010
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2016 Discovery 4 3.0 TDV6 Landmark LE Auto Indus SilverDiscovery 4

Anyone know what a dealer charges for cambelt change on a D4?
  
Post #141384824th Jan 2015 10:50 pm
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AndyWarren
 


Member Since: 11 Jan 2017
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United Kingdom 2010 Discovery 4 3.0 TDV6 HSE Auto Indus SilverDiscovery 4

Knetdale in Kendal quoted me 1000 plus vat
independent in Essex was 1100
NWS in Shropshire quoted 800 plus vat or 999 plus vat to include the 7 year 112k miles service Crying or Very sad
NWS also included the oil pump!
  
Post #176992527th Jan 2017 2:33 pm
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Flack
 


Member Since: 06 Sep 2006
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England 2007 Discovery 3 TDV6 XS Auto Stornoway GreyDiscovery 3

I have done the D4's belts no problem with the body on, its very tight and a load more to take off, the front belt has limited access because of the fan cowling but still doable with body on.

And yes the rear belt is timed.. I made my own tool for the fuel pump...

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Post #176997027th Jan 2017 3:50 pm
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firthy77
 


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United Kingdom 2013 Discovery 4 3.0 SDV6 XS Auto LuxorDiscovery 4

woodstock1 wrote:
Thanks for your posts everyone. Steve, what are the chances of fitting a replacement pump belt without the tool? Unfortunately I don't work at a dealer, and can find no reference to the timing tool from all the usual sources. I guess with good access(i.e body off) it would be possible to hold the pulleys and keep the timing correct, but with such limited access, I fear it must be nigh on impossible. It's good to know that with the tool it's possible to do with the car still assembled anyway! Laughing Thanks...Si..


Here is a link to the tool Thumbs Up

http://www.advancedfactors.co.uk/6183-dies...3063-p.asp
  
Post #177003927th Jan 2017 5:04 pm
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DrRobH
 


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Is this done at Year 7 ?
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Post #177013827th Jan 2017 7:47 pm
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Yes, 7th year 112000 whichever sooner
  
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Baz2236
 


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England 2005 Discovery 3 TDV6 S Manual Maya GoldDiscovery 3

Sorry to bring up an old thread but my make is going to replace the rear pump belt on his d4 he has the locking kit but would like to know where he puts it to lock the pump. When replacing the rear fuel pump belt.
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Post #188328124th Nov 2017 9:27 pm
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Flack
 


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Baz2236 Sorry to say if he does not know where to use the tool then he should not be attempting the belt job, if he gets it wrong its going to be costly. Plus if he has never done a cambelt before then doing a D4 rear belt is not the place to start.

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Post #188362525th Nov 2017 10:32 pm
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Disco_Mikey
 


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Scotland 2005 Discovery 3 TDV6 HSE Auto Cairns BlueDiscovery 3

I ofTen wonder just how critical the pump timing actually is, and what would the effects be if it was out... Confused
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Post #188362725th Nov 2017 10:44 pm
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SteveNorman
 


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The 3.0 TDV6 has a twin piston pump, running at higher pressure. As opposed to the 3 piston pump on the 2.7
Although the pressure is high, the volume is quite low. So a sudden use of fuel when the injector opens drops the pressure quite considerably.
The pump must be timed to help keep the pressure spikes in phase with injector opening to minimize pressure drops in the rail. Thus as an injector is flowing, the piston is a maximum pressure.

In reality, as you say, how much will this affect the operation?
I would suspect not noticeably much. But I suspect efficiency & fuel economy may suffer (a bit).

The pressure rail valve on the rail does a good job of stabilising pressure, but, as with most diesels, the ever increasing need to reduce emissions, makes them (or Bosch in this case) design in the best chance they can at making cleaner engines.



Regards
Steve
  
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Disco_Mikey
 


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Scotland 2005 Discovery 3 TDV6 HSE Auto Cairns BlueDiscovery 3

I understand the theory, but both fuel rails are linked together anyway

Seems a solution to a problem no one had Laughing
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Post #188392126th Nov 2017 11:13 pm
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Holmkiern
 


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Sweden 2011 LR4 3.0 TDV6 HSE Auto Unknown ColourLR4

Hi,thought it was like changeing as on a disco 3 but apperently not so I need to order locking tool.
It seems also even more lack of space as on a 3. Does anyone got an overview what needed to get off to reach belt on s D4?
Thanks/johnny
  
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M3DPO
 


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England 2014 Discovery 4 3.0 SDV6 HSE Lux Auto Corris GreyDiscovery 4

No need for locking tools on the Tbelt pulleys, everything else very much like a D3. Thumbs Up
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Holmkiern
 


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Sweden 2011 LR4 3.0 TDV6 HSE Auto Unknown ColourLR4

I'm not on timing belt. I is on the other end,high pressure pump belt.
Br johnny
  
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