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EGR Valves - is cleaning them worthwhile? NO REPLACE 'EM
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twoakers
 


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EGR Valves - is cleaning them worthwhile? NO REPLACE 'EM

The time has come for me to get my EGR valves sorted Shocked
Post 07 D3 so may not go down the blanking route...
Now inspired by Disco Mikey superb 'how to' write up http://www.disco3.co.uk/forum/topic31658.html
The question is do I clean the old ones?
Is it likely to be successful?
Has anyone done a clean up?
Last week I cleaned the EGR valve on my diesel engined Toyota Avensis
It was giving all the same symptoms that D3s give - you know black smoke and no low down power Evil or Very Mad
Very easy to take off from the top of the engine. No more than an hours job including the cleaning Whistle
What a difference - once again drives like a new car showing well over 50mpg Laughing
Any advice and experience from my learned friends Bow down on this forum would be most welcome
Although I am expecting to have to buy nice shiny new EGR valves for the D3 Rolling with laughter
 Cheers, Dave in Essex
D3 07 TDV6 HSE
Clubs - Turbo changed, EGR valves replaced, General Grabber ATs, Hawkeye FC reader, Front/rear wishbones, manual gearbox change, autobox flush, cam belt change, HPFP belt change, oil pump change....
Coachman Laser 650/4 caravan
Amateur Radio Callsign - G8PAI
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Post #13195243rd Aug 2014 9:07 am
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Not worth cleaning IMHO


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Wow that was a quick reply Mikey and great photos Thumbs Up
Your 'Black Museum' photos have convinced me to get some new EGR valves ordered Rolling Eyes
I will post my findings with photos when I do them 8)
Do you recommend using using LR parts for this Censored of a job?
Thanks once again Bow down
Dave
 Cheers, Dave in Essex
D3 07 TDV6 HSE
Clubs - Turbo changed, EGR valves replaced, General Grabber ATs, Hawkeye FC reader, Front/rear wishbones, manual gearbox change, autobox flush, cam belt change, HPFP belt change, oil pump change....
Coachman Laser 650/4 caravan
Amateur Radio Callsign - G8PAI
Playing with Big Boys Toys! 
 
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The valves are made by Valeo, so they can be bought from the aftermarket. Expect to pay around £140 each, inc VAT Thumbs Up
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Both EGR valves were replaced by me with nice new ones last Friday Very Happy
You need loads of patience to do this job Twisted Evil

The right hand EGR is easy to change......



......compared with the left hand one. Access is severely restricted by the turbo boost pipe Rolling Eyes



New one versus the old one 8)



Replaced the T30 bolts with nice new M8x16mm as recommend by Disco Mikey Bow down



So that's it. Job done. Loads more photos in my galley if you are interested Whistle
Car is now once again more responsive and lively Very Happy

What I did find with the old EGR valves was that one was very stiff and seized up with carbon.
This appeared to be an original valve - car now showing 66.5k
Service history showed that a certain main stealer had replaced one 3 years ago
Thought they should be done in pairs Rolling Eyes
The mini ball bearings were OK and not all broken up.
Both valves cleaned up OK with brushes and brake cleaner, paying attention to under the flange of the sliding shaft.
Kept as spares......will I refit them? No chance! Rolling with laughter

Tips for doing this job:
Make sure you have loads of light. It's dark down in the bowels beside the engine Laughing
I used a 2D workshop light hung on the underside of the bonnet, an LED workshop hand lamp and a 3w LED head torch Whistle
Do not drop anything Sad I dropped a little bolt and my favourite M8 rat Censored spanner - spent nearly 30 mins looking for 'em Embarassed
Make sure you have plenty of coffee on tap Wink
Give yer turbo actuator arm a wiggle and spray while you are down the left side with the battery tray off Thumbs Up
Clean the MAP sensor while you have the top engine cover off. It will be gunked up if you are having to do yer EGR valves 8)
Celebrate saving loads of money by opening beer and/or a bottle of wine Razz

That's it for now guys. Thanks once again to Disco Mikey for his How To guide and inspiration Thumbs Up
 Cheers, Dave in Essex
D3 07 TDV6 HSE
Clubs - Turbo changed, EGR valves replaced, General Grabber ATs, Hawkeye FC reader, Front/rear wishbones, manual gearbox change, autobox flush, cam belt change, HPFP belt change, oil pump change....
Coachman Laser 650/4 caravan
Amateur Radio Callsign - G8PAI
Playing with Big Boys Toys! 


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Did you mean clean the MAP sensor? Wink
 Current: Discovery 3 06MY (55 reg) HSE Auto Zambezi Silver Zambezi Silver Allisport Fast Road Intercooler, V8 Brakes, Silicone IC Hoses, EGRs Blanked, Remapped, De-Cat pipe, FBHIC
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twoakers
 


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What you mean this thingy Embarassed



Now amended to read MAP Thumbs Up
 Cheers, Dave in Essex
D3 07 TDV6 HSE
Clubs - Turbo changed, EGR valves replaced, General Grabber ATs, Hawkeye FC reader, Front/rear wishbones, manual gearbox change, autobox flush, cam belt change, HPFP belt change, oil pump change....
Coachman Laser 650/4 caravan
Amateur Radio Callsign - G8PAI
Playing with Big Boys Toys! 
 
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Thumbs Up
 Current: Discovery 3 06MY (55 reg) HSE Auto Zambezi Silver Zambezi Silver Allisport Fast Road Intercooler, V8 Brakes, Silicone IC Hoses, EGRs Blanked, Remapped, De-Cat pipe, FBHIC
Freelander 2 2007 HSE Manual Tambora Flame
Previous: FL2 56 reg SE Manual Black (written off Sad )
Disco 3 06 reg B7S Manual Rimini Red Rimini Red
Disco 2 TD5 Y reg ES Manual Blue - Chipped Very Happy
Several Discovery 300 TDis
 
 
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