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Barn1e
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United Kingdom 2005 Discovery 3 TDV6 S Auto Tonga GreenDiscovery 3

I agree with Yogi. Mine improved.
 2005, TDV6 S, Auto, 190k miles, owned from new, V8 Brake Upgrade, Nancom Evo, RLD protector, BAS EGR blanking & Remap, separate ATF cooler, changing all the fluids ahead of time.  
Post #131813830th Jul 2014 8:40 pm
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Mav 90
 


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Thanks all. I will talk to landy air and decide between a new drier or a rebuild kit. Once done I will repost to advise of the results.
  
Post #131860531st Jul 2014 10:38 pm
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Chippy
 


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Just had this issue of slow rising front, no faults shown but live data showed the compressor heating up to 130 degrees C. Dropped in to my mate who did the live data, no leaks which left two options spliter valve or lack of pressure due to knackered compressor. All he does is LR's and he plumped for new AMK compressor, its like a new car now goes up and down like lightning and handles so much better!
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Craig400sm
 


Member Since: 30 Jul 2014
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2005 Discovery 3 TDV6 HSE Auto Barolo BlackDiscovery 3

Hi all hope you don't mind me jumping on this thread but I'm having suspension problems and wondered if any one had any ideas . There is a "suspension fault normal height " code started coming up on the car it's not always there be most journeys it pops up . I also have a noisy compressor are these problems linked . I had it on diagnosis machine and that's coming up with " control module " fault .
Any idea guys ? Thanks in advance craig
  
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Mav 90
 


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United Kingdom 2014 Discovery 4 3.0 SDV6 XXV LE Auto Causeway GreyDiscovery 4

Hi Craig,

I have not got the experience that other forum members have, all I can tell you is what's happened to me.

my suspension operates at normal height ok without overheating the compressor and no warnings on dash, however when I try and raise it, it takes an age on the front which then overheats the compressor. im sure this is caused by a leak on the dryer. after spending a lot of time researching and reading I have just had delivered the Landy air rebuild kit including the compressor piston ring and new front plate for the dryer. you cant buy a replacement dryer unit from LR anymore(according to my local dealer).

i'm quietly confident that this will cure my problem but will post the results once I have done the job.

I don't know what the fault code/message means in your case but if the suspension compressor is noisy then it clearly has an issue, from what I have read the solution to most suspension issues is to service/rebuild the compressor and dryer or replace.

If I had your problems I would change the relay and service/rebuild the compressor first then see what the car was doing then - its not that expensive if you do it yourself. don't be daunted by it either, I found it easy to grasp and im not a mechanic.
 1974 S111 SWB 200di conversion, rag top, bronze green. Known as Munch
2004 pre-production D3 V8 HSE Tonga green, gone but buy back option!
2001 D2 4.0 V8 ES premium Epsom green - gone, but only round the corner!
1961 S11 SWB marine blue rag top - gone but not forgotten
2000 D2 4.0 V8 ES premium black - gone but not forgotten
1988 RR classic 3.5 V8 green - gone and nearly forgotten
1976 S111 LWB 2.25 diesel truck cab various shades of bronze green - gone and most definitely forgotten 
 
Post #13224879th Aug 2014 10:26 am
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Craig400sm
 


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Thanks mate I'll order a relay and take a look into the service kit .
Craig
  
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Mav 90
 


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Spent today doing the landy air refurb. Decided I would do the full lot while it was out as didn't want to take it off again if could help it.

I have done a dryer refurb inc olive seal and new cover as well as piston seal on the compressor.

I have put it all back on and no change to my issues Big Cry

I did notice that the intake port was very different looking inside to the exhaust port, is this right? It looks like a ballon knot.

I'm now thinking the compressor is not getting enough air going in. I have taken the intake silencer port out and cleaned it but it feels restricted. I ran it afterwards without the intake pipe in the valve and put my finger over the intake port and it is not sucking much in at all, there is no resistance when I pull my finger away? Am I right to assume I should expect a more powerful suck from the intake?

Can you buy a new intake silencer port?
 1974 S111 SWB 200di conversion, rag top, bronze green. Known as Munch
2004 pre-production D3 V8 HSE Tonga green, gone but buy back option!
2001 D2 4.0 V8 ES premium Epsom green - gone, but only round the corner!
1961 S11 SWB marine blue rag top - gone but not forgotten
2000 D2 4.0 V8 ES premium black - gone but not forgotten
1988 RR classic 3.5 V8 green - gone and nearly forgotten
1976 S111 LWB 2.25 diesel truck cab various shades of bronze green - gone and most definitely forgotten 
 
Post #132339110th Aug 2014 10:41 pm
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Craig400sm
 


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I also have done the service/rebuild and apart from a quieter compressor there's no change , still waiting on the relay and will take it from there I guess .
  
Post #132465713th Aug 2014 11:11 pm
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Mav 90
 


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Demoralising isn't it .. Big Cry

Today I called Andy at LANDY air and explained my problems and he was extremely helpful and knowledgable. I suspected the intake silencer was restricted/blocked and he confirmed it shouldn't look like the way I described it.

So tonight I removed silencer and removed o ring which was the problem and now suspension raises and lowers much much better, I still don't think its perfect but 100 times better and now operating at a level I can live with.

See pics below but I would check the intake is not restricted and try it without the intake pipe inserted just to rule out any restriction from the filter and or pipe.








 1974 S111 SWB 200di conversion, rag top, bronze green. Known as Munch
2004 pre-production D3 V8 HSE Tonga green, gone but buy back option!
2001 D2 4.0 V8 ES premium Epsom green - gone, but only round the corner!
1961 S11 SWB marine blue rag top - gone but not forgotten
2000 D2 4.0 V8 ES premium black - gone but not forgotten
1988 RR classic 3.5 V8 green - gone and nearly forgotten
1976 S111 LWB 2.25 diesel truck cab various shades of bronze green - gone and most definitely forgotten 
 
Post #132465913th Aug 2014 11:30 pm
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Mav 90
 


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I'd also be tempted to replace the brake pedal switch as can cause a lot of electrical issues according to others on the forum.
 1974 S111 SWB 200di conversion, rag top, bronze green. Known as Munch
2004 pre-production D3 V8 HSE Tonga green, gone but buy back option!
2001 D2 4.0 V8 ES premium Epsom green - gone, but only round the corner!
1961 S11 SWB marine blue rag top - gone but not forgotten
2000 D2 4.0 V8 ES premium black - gone but not forgotten
1988 RR classic 3.5 V8 green - gone and nearly forgotten
1976 S111 LWB 2.25 diesel truck cab various shades of bronze green - gone and most definitely forgotten 
 
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mal8837
 


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Hi Craig,
When my compressor went bad I got an intermittent message susp fault normal height only - I did a compressor service changed silica, o-rings, piston rubber pad etc and refitted along with new relay - fault then came on immediately every trip as I think the compressor was pumping more efficiently, but still not reaching the shut off pressure. My fix was a new drier lid from landyair - has been trouble free since.
  
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Craig400sm
 


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I couldn't take the pipe out the silencer so just unscrewed it , so no idea if it's blocked , may run it with it undone and see what happens . I watched a YouTube clip on rebuilding compressor in which he said you shouldn't be able to keep your finger on the outlet on the drier which I could when I tested it off the car . Thus telling me something may not be right ...
  
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Mav 90
 


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I ran mine for a few seconds without the silencer in but it was really loud and didn't sound right. I was worried I would do damage so bottled it. Have another go at trying to get the pipe out or ask whoever sold you your kit their opinion on running it without the silencer in first.
 1974 S111 SWB 200di conversion, rag top, bronze green. Known as Munch
2004 pre-production D3 V8 HSE Tonga green, gone but buy back option!
2001 D2 4.0 V8 ES premium Epsom green - gone, but only round the corner!
1961 S11 SWB marine blue rag top - gone but not forgotten
2000 D2 4.0 V8 ES premium black - gone but not forgotten
1988 RR classic 3.5 V8 green - gone and nearly forgotten
1976 S111 LWB 2.25 diesel truck cab various shades of bronze green - gone and most definitely forgotten 
 
Post #132467014th Aug 2014 12:08 am
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Barn1e
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Craig400sm wrote:
I couldn't take the pipe out the silencer so just unscrewed it , so no idea if it's blocked , may run it with it undone and see what happens . I watched a YouTube clip on rebuilding compressor in which he said you shouldn't be able to keep your finger on the outlet on the drier which I could when I tested it off the car . Thus telling me something may not be right ...

Craig, did you replace the dryer lid. I guess you have seen the threads about cracked lids. I don't think a new relay will help your issue - just good practice to replace in case it fails and leaves the compressor running and overheating.
 2005, TDV6 S, Auto, 190k miles, owned from new, V8 Brake Upgrade, Nancom Evo, RLD protector, BAS EGR blanking & Remap, separate ATF cooler, changing all the fluids ahead of time.  
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mal8837
 


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