dubbs
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Besides, those D4s are very "pretty" and "girly" on the outside with all those fairy lights...  MY15 DIY Black Pack (Better than factory and half the price!)
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pinhead
Member Since: 20 Dec 2010
Location: yorkshire
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G_Cam wrote:lespes wrote:D3 will lose residual value more than D4
Think you must mean the other way around?
no i think that statement to be quite true
the last of the d3s with low miles are a little overpriced right now and with a few miles added may well deprecate hard you can see how much by looking at 1 year older and 10-20 thousand more miles as a rough guide
but as more d4s become affordable d3s will probably drop faster
where as the bottom end of the d4 market will have a lot of people who can not quite afford 1 but want 1 and a small drop in price would see it snapped up keeping the bottom end of the d4 market quite boyant until the bottom of the market is saturated and that i think will be a while longer yet possibly when the d5 is released and there is a flood of trade ins
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| 1st Mar 2014 10:06 am |
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gensetsteve
Member Since: 01 Jan 2014
Location: hampshire
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The D3 never really appealed to me bit heavy and under powered. The D4 has bags more torque a little better on fuel which is irrelevant really on a car that averages 21 mpg. The D4 interior is much nicer especially with leather everywhere seemed a shame when I stepped out of 2ft deep mud and rolled around in the cab yesterday. If you want reliability dont touch a Landrover with a Barge pole especially a D3 or D4 D4
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| 1st Mar 2014 11:00 am |
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waterbuoy
Member Since: 26 Oct 2013
Location: Argyll
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The OPs initial and subsequent posts were regarding a (very) late D3 or an early high mileage D4 - ie one with the 2.7 litre/6 speed box combination. He doesn't seem to be contemplating the 3litre version from what he has said.  Currently 2009 Disco 3 SE, 2013 MY D4 HSE and 2016 D4 SE
Previously:
TD5 Defender 110 CSW (230k miles)
300TDi Disco 1 (289k)
4 RR Classics (300-350k each, 2 manual, 2 auto)
110 V8 CSW (220k)
S3 109 hi cap pickup (ex RN)
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| 1st Mar 2014 11:19 am |
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NoDo$h
Member Since: 02 May 2006
Location: Finding new and exciting ways to milk badgers.
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I'm beginning to idly wonder when the new RRS will start coming through at sub £40k......  I know it's not considered "kind" to say no these days, but no. Just no, ok? And if it's not ok, still no.
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| 1st Mar 2014 11:34 am |
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waterbuoy
Member Since: 26 Oct 2013
Location: Argyll
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We're following a similar approach - looking for a D3 for SWMBO but have expanded net to RRS as they seem to be more lightly used (maybe not with right foot) and competitively priced  Currently 2009 Disco 3 SE, 2013 MY D4 HSE and 2016 D4 SE
Previously:
TD5 Defender 110 CSW (230k miles)
300TDi Disco 1 (289k)
4 RR Classics (300-350k each, 2 manual, 2 auto)
110 V8 CSW (220k)
S3 109 hi cap pickup (ex RN)
S2A 88 Safari SW with lpg conversion (bloody lethal)
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| 1st Mar 2014 11:38 am |
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BLFarrar
Member Since: 02 Aug 2006
Location: Deepest, Dankest, Darkest, Dingiest......Le Halifax, West Yorkshire...with strong links to Ireland
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Sorry Disagree
gensetsteve wrote:The D3 never really appealed to me bit heavy and under powered.
Copared to what a D2...have you or do you tow ? Mine has oodles of power / torque even with a huge loaded trailer....I mean up to its nuts with a heavy load
gensetsteve wrote: D4 has bags more torque a little better on fuel which is irrelevant really on a car that averages 21 mpg.
If your D4 only does 21mpg I'm glad I didn't go for one....my D3 on around town journeys...(more than 10 miles less that 30...regularly over 25mpg///ona longer run well over 30mpg...unchipped driven hard
gensetsteve wrote: D4 interior is much nicer especially with leather everywhere seemed a shame when I stepped out of 2ft deep mud and rolled around in the cab yesterday.
Thats the whole point Land rovers are a=essentially a utility working vehicle...not a hairdressers car...dont crib that you feel you shouldn't get in with muddy anything...A D3 is easy to clean & durable
gensetsteve wrote: you want reliability dont touch a Landrover with a Barge pole especially a D3 or D4
....not been my experience with D1's, various D2's & a D3....may be I'm just lucky or is the myth just a myth..
& if thats what you feel express what the hell buy a LandRover
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| 1st Mar 2014 10:13 pm |
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BLFarrar
Member Since: 02 Aug 2006
Location: Deepest, Dankest, Darkest, Dingiest......Le Halifax, West Yorkshire...with strong links to Ireland
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NoDo$h wrote:I'm beginning to idly wonder when the new RRS will start coming through at sub £40k......
about another 12 to 14 months if my extrapolations of the Glasses guide are correct...
currently its a sellers market
How's NoDo$h..?....if you escape to the New RRS you will be missed
Have you still got floods where you are ? BREXIT - done properly.
Right now ...We need Government - not Politics
Save the Dipstick Flagbearer-keep it simple, less likely to fail campaign-agenda items:Starting Handles, Acetylene Lamps.
Founder: Dipsticks-R-Us Inc
D3 HSE-perfectly formed, passenger friendly...has real DIPSTICK
Jag XK-but sadly no DIPSTICK...HUGE design fault
FL2 has DIPSTICK..."real comfort in rear seats"
VW Golf wondermobile (?)..has real DIPSTICK
Morris Minor..original DIPSTICK technology..and a real KEY.
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| 1st Mar 2014 10:14 pm |
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gensetsteve
Member Since: 01 Jan 2014
Location: hampshire
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BLFarrar wrote:Sorry Disagree
gensetsteve wrote:The D3 never really appealed to me bit heavy and under powered.
Copared to what a D2...have you or do you tow ? Mine has oodles of power / torque even with a huge loaded trailer....I mean up to its nuts with a heavy load
gensetsteve wrote: D4 has bags more torque a little better on fuel which is irrelevant really on a car that averages 21 mpg.
If your D4 only does 21mpg I'm glad I didn't go for one....my D3 on around town journeys...(more than 10 miles less that 30...regularly over 25mpg///ona longer run well over 30mpg...unchipped driven hard
gensetsteve wrote: D4 interior is much nicer especially with leather everywhere seemed a shame when I stepped out of 2ft deep mud and rolled around in the cab yesterday.
Thats the whole point Land rovers are a=essentially a utility working vehicle...not a hairdressers car...dont crib that you feel you shouldn't get in with muddy anything...A D3 is easy to clean & durable
gensetsteve wrote: you want reliability dont touch a Landrover with a Barge pole especially a D3 or D4
....not been my experience with D1's, various D2's & a D3....may be I'm just lucky or is the myth just a myth..
& if thats what you feel express what the hell buy a LandRover
Vehicles mean different things to different people. If I wanted utility I would have bought a series 3. I am sure the D3 was a great vehicle in 2003.
I have had lots of d1 s and a d2 which were fine. I avoided the d3 because it was unreliable and the d4 was supposed to address those problems but I have a feeling it is worst. My onboard computer is miles out on mpg. It cheerfully says at least 3 mpg more than the truck does.
If the vehicle continues to give problems it will be gone.
If you like the d3 trade it in you will love the d4 with 3 litre engine. D4
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| 1st Mar 2014 10:35 pm |
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hotrocks
Member Since: 05 Jan 2010
Location: England
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I have had every version of the Discovery.. buy a D4... you wont be disappointed... but save up for at least an XS
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| 1st Mar 2014 11:46 pm |
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steveraspberry
Member Since: 18 Sep 2011
Location: Nr Sevenoaks,Kent
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Yep! What Hotroacks said. Having had both side by side Like Farmer Chalk, I am lucky enough to have been able to do an extended side by comparison. The D 4 is the car the D3 should have been IMHO. Don't get me wrong, I loved my G4 and had a brilliant time in it. The D4 is more capable, more comfortable and drives better but then it is more expensive too. Whichever one you choose, you will not regret it My17 Volvo XC90 Inscription
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marto
Member Since: 27 Feb 2014
Location: Surrey
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Thanks for all the great advice
I think I'm going to save up a bit longer and go for an early D4 with the 3.0 litre engine. I'm hoping that the repair bills won't be too much compared to D3. Also, I'm going to check out a Mercedes ML this afternoon. I prefer the D4 but my wife likes the ML.
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| 9th Mar 2014 11:37 am |
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Canburne
Member Since: 15 Jan 2013
Location: Devon
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You will be very disappointed with the ML. To bring it up to D4 spec for off road you will have to add lots of extras. The space inside is nowhere as good or usable compared to the D4. Ride and handling is nowhere as good either. Someone mentioned 'hairdressers' in a previous thread and that is exactly what the ML is for.....
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| 9th Mar 2014 11:59 am |
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Russell
Member Since: 24 Aug 2007
Location: Kent
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Had D3 and D4 both great cars and both did as they say on the timne. However the D4 has been very very good, plenty of get up and go and plenty of grunt when towing. However the D4 as a whole has been more reliable, the first one I had did suffer with engine issues but it kept going. In my view either vehicle will be 1st rate but the D4 makes the D3 look very dated in all respects. MY17 D5 1st Edition Namib Orange
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| 9th Mar 2014 12:19 pm |
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DG
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Member Since: 12 Dec 2005
Location: The Gaff
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Ditto on the D4 ....I enjoyed my 09MY D3 ...but the D4 is far more refined 21 year LR veteran > D2 GS 2003 > D3 S 2006 > D3 HSE 2009 > D4 HSE 2013 > D4 HSE 2015 > D5 HSE 2018 > DS HSE R-Dynamic P300e 2021
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