marsie
Member Since: 28 Feb 2010
Location: Sheffieldish
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As some of you know i bought another Disco at the weekend. Under new law the tax isn't transferable to me (plus it ran out in August) so my question is-
Under the new law does the tax run from the end of the month still or the day it is bought?
If its month, whats the earliest i can tax my car to start on the 1st of November so as not to loose a month by taxing now and it starting on the 1st of october??
Thanks guys
Paul  Previous Discos
1989 200tdi 3dr
1994 300tdi ES
1995 3.9 ES (x3)
2000 4.0 adventurer
2001 4.0 ES
2005 D3 HSE (zambesi silver)
2007 D3 SE (Lugano teal)
2011 D4 XS (Baltic Blue)
2008 D3 HSE PREMIUM (buckingham blue)
2009 D4 XS (Nara bronze)
2006 D3 Metropolis (Java Black)
2012my D4 HSE (indus silver)
2013 D4 XS (Firenze red)
Current 2017 D5 first edition (silicone silver)
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 21st Oct 2014 9:39 pm |
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Discogaz
Member Since: 17 Mar 2014
Location: Bracknell
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As far as I've read, you have to pay a whole month so tax now and you have to pay for all of October.
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| 21st Oct 2014 9:46 pm |
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marsie
Member Since: 28 Feb 2010
Location: Sheffieldish
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Thats what i thought. In that case it can stay in the garage until next weekend and get taxed then. I refuse to pay £50 for a weeks tax  Previous Discos
1989 200tdi 3dr
1994 300tdi ES
1995 3.9 ES (x3)
2000 4.0 adventurer
2001 4.0 ES
2005 D3 HSE (zambesi silver)
2007 D3 SE (Lugano teal)
2011 D4 XS (Baltic Blue)
2008 D3 HSE PREMIUM (buckingham blue)
2009 D4 XS (Nara bronze)
2006 D3 Metropolis (Java Black)
2012my D4 HSE (indus silver)
2013 D4 XS (Firenze red)
Current 2017 D5 first edition (silicone silver)
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| 21st Oct 2014 9:50 pm |
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Garagegmx
Member Since: 09 Feb 2014
Location: UK
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As soon as you've purchased it you become liable for tax. The V5C will have been sent off stating the date of sale. Your on a hiding to nothing to try and avoid it until November.
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| 21st Oct 2014 9:51 pm |
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A1GSS
Member Since: 12 Sep 2010
Location: Saffron Walden, Essex
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^is right unless you SORN'ed it on purchase and didn't drive it. ____
Gone: 10MY L320 RR Sport HSE, Ipanema Sand
Gone: 20MY Jaguar iPace HSE, Silicon Silver
Gone: 17MY RR Evoque SE Tech, Loire Blue
Gone: 08MY Discovery 3 XS, Stornoway Grey
Gone: 07MY FFRR TDV8 Vogue, Stornoway Grey
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| 21st Oct 2014 9:54 pm |
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marsie
Member Since: 28 Feb 2010
Location: Sheffieldish
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No i haven't driven it  . So basically i have paid for October twice as i see it
Paid for years tax on old car but will only get refunded from 1st november, new car will be taxed from 1st October so am paying for tax on 2 cars this month (almost £100!!  )
Surely the new system would be fairer if the tax liability date started on the day of sale/purchase and taht way refunds would also be fairer
Just another way of skanking the motorists 
Paul Previous Discos
1989 200tdi 3dr
1994 300tdi ES
1995 3.9 ES (x3)
2000 4.0 adventurer
2001 4.0 ES
2005 D3 HSE (zambesi silver)
2007 D3 SE (Lugano teal)
2011 D4 XS (Baltic Blue)
2008 D3 HSE PREMIUM (buckingham blue)
2009 D4 XS (Nara bronze)
2006 D3 Metropolis (Java Black)
2012my D4 HSE (indus silver)
2013 D4 XS (Firenze red)
Current 2017 D5 first edition (silicone silver)
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| 21st Oct 2014 10:00 pm |
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Garagegmx
Member Since: 09 Feb 2014
Location: UK
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Your right.
There's a lengthy Q&A blog on the DVLA site.
I got annoyed because I picked up a new car on 29th September, but ended up having to have the tax run from 1st. They don't do 12 months and so many days on a new car now. 
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| 21st Oct 2014 10:07 pm |
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marsie
Member Since: 28 Feb 2010
Location: Sheffieldish
Posts: 1807
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Thats sh*te! now there is no tax disc i can see no reason why it cannot run to the exact date like the insurance does. Previous Discos
1989 200tdi 3dr
1994 300tdi ES
1995 3.9 ES (x3)
2000 4.0 adventurer
2001 4.0 ES
2005 D3 HSE (zambesi silver)
2007 D3 SE (Lugano teal)
2011 D4 XS (Baltic Blue)
2008 D3 HSE PREMIUM (buckingham blue)
2009 D4 XS (Nara bronze)
2006 D3 Metropolis (Java Black)
2012my D4 HSE (indus silver)
2013 D4 XS (Firenze red)
Current 2017 D5 first edition (silicone silver)
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| 21st Oct 2014 10:12 pm |
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A1GSS
Member Since: 12 Sep 2010
Location: Saffron Walden, Essex
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Yeah, I posted the link to the petition for that reason, let me see if I can find it ____
Gone: 10MY L320 RR Sport HSE, Ipanema Sand
Gone: 20MY Jaguar iPace HSE, Silicon Silver
Gone: 17MY RR Evoque SE Tech, Loire Blue
Gone: 08MY Discovery 3 XS, Stornoway Grey
Gone: 07MY FFRR TDV8 Vogue, Stornoway Grey
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| 21st Oct 2014 10:57 pm |
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A1GSS
Member Since: 12 Sep 2010
Location: Saffron Walden, Essex
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Here we go:
http://www.disco3.co.uk/forum/topic118497.html ____
Gone: 10MY L320 RR Sport HSE, Ipanema Sand
Gone: 20MY Jaguar iPace HSE, Silicon Silver
Gone: 17MY RR Evoque SE Tech, Loire Blue
Gone: 08MY Discovery 3 XS, Stornoway Grey
Gone: 07MY FFRR TDV8 Vogue, Stornoway Grey
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| 21st Oct 2014 11:00 pm |
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DurtyDisco
Member Since: 10 Dec 2012
Location: Northamptonshire
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Just a curious question......slightly related.....
If the car is still in tax from the previous owner who surrenders the Tax Disc to DVLA following on from the sale of the car to a new owner, the DVLA will only refund full months... to technically the car is still taxed to the end of the month under the previous owners name......
If as a new purchaser you Tax it from the start of the following month, it would theoretically be taxed concurrently.........
So, if I were to buy a car, drive it home it would be taxed and would remain taxed in the eyes of DVLA/ANPR Systems until the existing disc was surrendered, cancelled and then refunded, then I tax it..? G4OC Secretary
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| 21st Oct 2014 11:06 pm |
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A1GSS
Member Since: 12 Sep 2010
Location: Saffron Walden, Essex
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Nope. It expires on the sale. ____
Gone: 10MY L320 RR Sport HSE, Ipanema Sand
Gone: 20MY Jaguar iPace HSE, Silicon Silver
Gone: 17MY RR Evoque SE Tech, Loire Blue
Gone: 08MY Discovery 3 XS, Stornoway Grey
Gone: 07MY FFRR TDV8 Vogue, Stornoway Grey
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| 21st Oct 2014 11:09 pm |
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Farmer Chalk
Member Since: 07 Mar 2013
Location: Independent Republic of Kentishshire.
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The DVLA have been like all Govt departments running a massively negative budget for some years, hence the closure of all of the VRO's etc. what we must understand by them creating low and zero rates of taxation to promote low emission vehicles has had a huge impact in their overall income. That added to the reduced taxation from the fuel duty because cars have become so much more efficient has led to the Govt having to come up with clever alternatives to raise revenue.
Hence the sale of plates, the new taxation rules etc etc... What this new regulation also helps out is continuous registration.....
There is a massive black hole as far as the DVLA are concerned which relates to a large number of 2-3 year old cars disappearing of their radar and no longer being taxed....what was actually happening was that this figure of untaxed vehicles was in the main 2-3 year old prestige cars being exported to foreign climes. Unlike the German Authorities here in the UK we have no necessity to deregister cars and obtain an export certificate or temporary registration. The cars just turn up at Felixstowe or Portsmouth are loaded and disappear forever... Hence DVLA think there are lots of drivers evading VEL, because they have never been informed they had left the Country.
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| 21st Oct 2014 11:24 pm |
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marsie
Member Since: 28 Feb 2010
Location: Sheffieldish
Posts: 1807
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A1GSS wrote:Here we go:
http://www.disco3.co.uk/forum/topic118497.html
Signed
Thanks for the link
Paul Previous Discos
1989 200tdi 3dr
1994 300tdi ES
1995 3.9 ES (x3)
2000 4.0 adventurer
2001 4.0 ES
2005 D3 HSE (zambesi silver)
2007 D3 SE (Lugano teal)
2011 D4 XS (Baltic Blue)
2008 D3 HSE PREMIUM (buckingham blue)
2009 D4 XS (Nara bronze)
2006 D3 Metropolis (Java Black)
2012my D4 HSE (indus silver)
2013 D4 XS (Firenze red)
Current 2017 D5 first edition (silicone silver)
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| 22nd Oct 2014 8:08 am |
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A1GSS
Member Since: 12 Sep 2010
Location: Saffron Walden, Essex
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No worries. I think as DSL says it would be better to get rid of it altogether but I don't see that happening but this is at least fairer. ____
Gone: 10MY L320 RR Sport HSE, Ipanema Sand
Gone: 20MY Jaguar iPace HSE, Silicon Silver
Gone: 17MY RR Evoque SE Tech, Loire Blue
Gone: 08MY Discovery 3 XS, Stornoway Grey
Gone: 07MY FFRR TDV8 Vogue, Stornoway Grey
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| 22nd Oct 2014 10:02 am |
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