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Spare wheel stolen - hindsight and correction... Winch part
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lukeob
 


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Spare wheel stolen - hindsight and correction... Winch part

Just had a Censored awful end to a nice day with the family at Olympia Horse Show when we had the good fortune to pull over at Services to get some supplies. Odd noise driving so stopped and noted a flat on the rear. No problem - I'll change the wheel....

Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad DIRTY DIRTY F*CKING S*IT C*NT W*NKERS have taken cut and had the wheel away.

More fool me for trusting humankind not to steal the wheel and bought one of Uncle Ray's spare wheel protectors sooner. (Have already PM'd him now to buy one).

Have had to Uber home 30 miles with the wife and kids and we'll be heading back to get the wheel off tomorrow so haven't looked properly but does anyone know what part I'll need to replace for the winch? Found this, but not sure it's the whole thing I'll need: LR010453

Cheers in advance. And for anyone else thinking they'll chance it (f*cking wish I hadn't), get a spare wheel protector. £600 wheel + £200 tyre can buy a lot of skag - hence it's not if but when.
 Luke

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and take your detachable tow bar off or they will nick that
  
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Hi,
pick a spare up from the for sale section on here or bay of fleas (sadly keeps the market for them going Censored ) £100 - £200

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lukeob
 


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Thankfully the tow bar was still there although I think I'll now start taking it off when we're not using it.
 Luke

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Corris MacGray
 


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Spare wheel stolen - can I replace with steel not alloy?

Mine too #metoo - my D4's one's gone in the last couple of weeks but can't think where or how Confused

Have contacted Uncle Ray for a protector but can I replace alloy spare with a steel one and cheaper tyre. Seems pointless shelling out for an alloy when generally a puncture will be fixed asap and the punctured wheel put back on.

If that can work, do I need different wheel nuts for the steel etc?

Also any recommendations for purchasing the hardened ended winch as my cable's been cut

Any thoughts appreciated

CMG
  
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adam
 


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Don't bother with the steel space saver - they are rubbish (I couldn't give my old one away) and if you get one of Ray's superb protectors, that's all you need

You will see second-hand alloys pop up on here for sale regularly - best bet IMO in case you cant get puncture repaired in few days.

I got an alloy (exact same type as mine) for £100 and put the best of my old tyres on it when I got a new set a few weeks later - all sorted.
  
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I got a full-size alloy with tyre for £200 from a member on here, plus £25 for MD Couriers to deliver.

Never needed it - but it's very comforting to know that I have a proper wheel underneath which will do the same job as the others.

And I've got an RLD ScroteStop fitted. For once, I took the advice before I needed it.
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Corris MacGray
 


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Thanks Guys, I’ll keep ‘em peeled for an alloy

CMG
  
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What wheel type is it, do you have a pic? eBay prob best route, you might even get your original wheel back. Thumbs Up
   
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So out of interest why replace the spacesaver with alloy and be attractive to the theiving scum in the first place? Is this so you can continue to do motorway speeds etc whilst you sort the issue out or have there been failures/issues with spacesavers?
Asking as my D4 has a spacesaver from factory and was kind of happy with that (avoids the theft issue completely. Prevention better than cure & all that!)
But now im wondering is there something I should know?

You could almost count in hours the amount of time the vehicle will run on its spare during its lifetime, is it really worth it?

Ps one thing that really is making consider changing though is the fact I tow a caravan when on our jollies. Definitely wouldn’t be putting a spacesaver on in those conditions. But then I have RAC for such circumstances 8)
  
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So if you have a puncture when towing the caravan what do you think the RAC will do? They’ll put your spare on and that’s it. They won’t be taking your wheel with the puncture to a Kwikfit and getting you a new tyre. If you don’t have a full sized spare then they’ll assume you’re happy continuing your trip with the spare you have.

Many spares are rated 50mph/50 miles max, not sure re D3/4 skinny though.
  

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Well, if you’re “off-road” having a space saver is pretty much the same as having an empty tire. Thumbs Up

Some people take two spares with them if they’re going far away from civilization or on difficult routes.
  
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Gazzdid
 


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DSL wrote:
So if you have a puncture when towing the caravan what do you think the RAC will do? They’ll put your spare on and that’s it. They won’t be taking your wheel with the puncture to a Kwikfit and getting you a new tyre. If you don’t have a full sized spare then they’ll assume you’re happy continuing your trip with the spare you have.

Many spares are rated 50mph/50 miles max, not sure re D3/4 skinny though.


Not if the tyre is not adequate for the loading on the car they wont Wink

They would tow the car & caravan to our destination where I can repair the tyre at my leisure. But as I said this is not ideal and at the moment (unless anyone informs me of any underlying defects/issues with using a spacesaver) its the only thing tempting me to change it.
Obviously in the above situation I would much prefer to change the wheel and be on my way within minutes & under our own steam rather than waiting hours for recovery etc. Plus enduring the embarrassment of arriving a la RAC Laughing
 

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Gazzdid
 


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kajtzu wrote:
Well, if you’re “off-road” having a space saver is pretty much the same as having an empty tire. Thumbs Up

Some people take two spares with them if they’re going far away from civilization or on difficult routes.


I would imagine off roading with a spacesaver would be as much use as a cycle wheel Laughing
  
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I had 2 vulcanised repairs done a few years ago (£25 per repair vs. £150 per new tyre) - meant tyre was sent away for a week each time - believe me driving around on a crap space saver for a week at a max 50 mph will change anybody's point of view.

Full size alloy + Ray's protector is the way to go.
  
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