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A sign of things to come with the D5?
Long drive today and sat behind various RRS2's and started to notice the cr@p allignment of the tailgate. If you follow the line above the number plate and look where it meets the corresponding line above the tail lights the left and right sides were very noticeably different on them all to the point I would have been asking the dealer to fix them. One was a good 1cm lower on one side.
Wonder if the new D5 will inherit these characteristics with similar body manufacturing being used? I would not have been happy with any of them.MY06 S - Gone but not forgotten
MY12 HSE - Gone
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3rd Mar 2016 7:38 pm
DaveT
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3rd Mar 2016 7:43 pm
Red Merle
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There's no particular reason why a unitary construction car, on a modern, automated, production line should be anything other than consistent and accurate, so what you've see is hard to understand.2011 - 2015: 3 x FL2
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3rd Mar 2016 7:57 pm
tayaste
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Door and tailgate alignment are done by hand, you'll be surprised and possibly shocked how it is achieved, or not achieved as in the case above.
3rd Mar 2016 8:04 pm
Red Merle
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I've been to a fair few production lines and seen it done, but it was only the Classic Mini line where such things were forced in to place with pry bars! 2011 - 2015: 3 x FL2
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3rd Mar 2016 8:40 pm
comedyharvey
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When the last Defender was built and was being shown on the news there was a brief clip of the production line. One of the operatives closed the the drivers door, opened it, gave it a damned good twist against its hinges, closed it again and, now happy with the fit, let it roll on.
I've done that a few times in the past on my old Series 3 lightweight, I just never knew they started off that way.Arthur.
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3rd Mar 2016 8:58 pm
LT
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The top section of the tailgate on both my previous MY14 and current MY15 needed adjustment by the dealer. As did the o/s passenger door on the MY14.
Pretty poor on vehicles costing in excess of £55k.2006 D3 HSE (Original & still the best)-GONE
2010 D4 HSE (A bit bling)-GONE
2014 D4 HSE (Almost too bling)-GONE
2015 D4 HSE (A heated what?)-GONE
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4th Mar 2016 1:29 pm
ste m
Member Since: 13 Apr 2015
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Absolutely nothing wrong with aligning the doors like that, all material especially metal has a memory and you just have to adjust that at times, not only do you twist is but you will close the doors on special pads and also give them some slight persuasion with the said pad as well. Show me a manufacturer that doesn't do similar and ill show my ar5e in woolworths window haha.
Also I suppose the new one may have an electric tailgate, that will stop us from slamming our 60k dicoverys tailgates shut
4th Mar 2016 8:33 pm
Brian_DL13
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> ill show my ar5e in woolworths window
Meaningless as Woollies no longer exists. Bet something real, please (pretty please)
4th Mar 2016 8:38 pm
tayaste
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Here you go, it's a few years old but the technique still carries.
4th Mar 2016 9:47 pm
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LT wrote:
Pretty poor on vehicles costing in excess of £55k.
.....and yet when you buy a new house \ have a building development done for £X00,000 you can spend weeks snagging their work 21 year LR veteran > D2 GS 2003 > D3 S 2006 > D3 HSE 2009 > D4 HSE 2013 > D4 HSE 2015 > D5 HSE 2018 > DS HSE R-Dynamic P300e 2021
4th Mar 2016 9:53 pm
LT
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Oh yeah, that makes it okay then. It was a bit much to expect someone at the LR plant to open and close the tailgate to check it's aligned properly. 2006 D3 HSE (Original & still the best)-GONE
2010 D4 HSE (A bit bling)-GONE
2014 D4 HSE (Almost too bling)-GONE
2015 D4 HSE (A heated what?)-GONE
2016 D4 Landmark (Written Off)-GONE
2016 D4 Landmark (Surely the last!) PD1881 rims-GONE
2017 FFRR SDV8 Autobiography (now semi-retired)
4th Mar 2016 10:23 pm
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I'm not saying it makes it ok ...I'm saying your "value" comparison is rubbish 21 year LR veteran > D2 GS 2003 > D3 S 2006 > D3 HSE 2009 > D4 HSE 2013 > D4 HSE 2015 > D5 HSE 2018 > DS HSE R-Dynamic P300e 2021
4th Mar 2016 10:25 pm
ste m
Member Since: 13 Apr 2015
Location: Liverpool
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LT wrote:
Oh yeah, that makes it okay then. It was a bit much to expect someone at the LR plant to open and close the tailgate to check it's aligned properly.
They do, they have specific lines for this very process, i do know that the front wing on a evoque looks odd as there is a plastic infill that makes the line look out of alignment. Maybe its something like this?
I do know when i had a DS for the day as a loan car from my dealer that the boot was that much out of line it looked like it was open. I definitely know it wouldn't of come out of the factory like that so maybe they'd done something to it themselves or it had had a knock
4th Mar 2016 10:31 pm
LT
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Location: South West
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I must admit, I never did a visual check to see what the shut lines looked like on either of them. I just knew, from my previous D3 & D4, that it shouldn't be necessary for me to have to put a big effort into slamming the tailgate to get it to shut properly. The rest of the family weren't able to do it, so I'd have to.
It was an easy fix for the dealer and for me just part of buying process. I've yet to buy a new Discovery that didn't have minor little niggles.2006 D3 HSE (Original & still the best)-GONE
2010 D4 HSE (A bit bling)-GONE
2014 D4 HSE (Almost too bling)-GONE
2015 D4 HSE (A heated what?)-GONE
2016 D4 Landmark (Written Off)-GONE
2016 D4 Landmark (Surely the last!) PD1881 rims-GONE
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