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LT
 


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DG wrote:
I'm not saying it makes it ok ...I'm saying your "value" comparison is rubbish Laughing


I don't agree. It's a vehicle, made on a state of the art production line, which should have strict quality control. It's not a house built manually.

JLR are marketing themselves as a Premium brand, with prices to reflect this. It's not too much to expect that all the doors open and close correctly.

As for value comparison, if it was a new Dacia costing £10k you might put it down to "you get what you pay for".
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Yawn Yadda yadda for a perfect world Wink

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It's not a house built manually


Confused do they have any more or less visual impairment ?
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Laughing All I said was "Pretty poor on vehicles costing in excess of £55k".

Your comparison of a D4 to a new build house or development project was rubbish. Wink
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It was just to highlight the crassness of your expectation Laughing
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I don't see what was crass about that comment. Unless your implying that as the D4 is Land Rover it would be stupid to expect it to have fully functional doors. In which case, it would seem that you're sadly right. Thumbs Up I mean sad as in LR still can't get to grips with basic quality control from one year to the next.
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But that means to say you think that all other marques are faultless ....they , LR and house-builders and all manufacturers of anything are no different Smile
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Here you go, it's a few years old but the technique still carries.


to be fair, that is some excellent workmanship on display there. Very effective and efficient.
  
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I have noticed for a while the ewoks tailgates are all over the place. I was driving behind an ewok and alongside came the landwind X7 which is clearly not a copy as the tailgate shutlines were perfect.
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DG wrote:
But that means to say you think that all other marques are faultless ....they , LR and house-builders and all manufacturers of anything are no different Smile


It doesn't mean that at all. My comment was simply an expression of my thoughts about the fact that the tailgate was incorrectly aligned on my last two D4's. Which I consider to be "pretty poor".

I do, in most circumstances, expect quality to be commensurate with price. Of course in reality that isn't always the case. As this thread proves.
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I'm surprised the Chinese haven't launched their own version of the D5 yet Whistle Laughing
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LT I agree, it's not much to ask of a company that's making a lot of profit too build a car properly or at least pick up on quality control issues before they leave the factory. In 6 months my one has been back for poor shutting tailgate, suspension bushes greased and now temperature display is out.
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LT wrote:
Of course in reality that isn't always the case. As this thread proves.


So we agree afterall then Laughing
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Yes, I think we all agree that the tailgate not being correctly aligned on a vehicle costing in excess of £55k is pretty poor. Laughing
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I've heard form someone in the JLR design department that shut lines are a problem for them and they can't get the same quality and consistancy as their German competitors......
  
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