Strange .... Body Off, full view of both rear pulleys, and you only show the FIP Pulley!
Even stranger your FIP pulley is on the left; one FIP pulley shows rust and the other not ......
I never mentioned the front cam pulley, nor using timing pins on the front, so, you may have proved something, but I am not sure what.
Lets agree to disagree, hoping the timing on mine was a rare exception, and that you do not have people cranking all night to get things right IF their initial READ timing was out.
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16th Dec 2022 10:07 pm
Disco_Mikey
Member Since: 29 May 2007
Location: Dundee, Scotland
Posts: 20853
That wasn't body off. As I said, I had one in for belts today
If your HPFP pulley has the mark at the bottom, it isn't miss timed. You need to rotate the crank twice to align the mark at the top
The cam pin can be inserted when the HPFP marks are at the top, or in your case, at the bottom
Your pump wasn't mistimed from the factory, you only needed to rotate the engine to get the marks to align My D3 Build Thread
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Location: Weymouth
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SteveLad wrote:
Strange .... Body Off, full view of both rear pulleys, and you only show the FIP Pulley!
Even stranger your FIP pulley is on the left; one FIP pulley shows rust and the other not ......
I never mentioned the front cam pulley, nor using timing pins on the front, so, you may have proved something, but I am not sure what.
Lets agree to disagree, hoping the timing on mine was a rare exception, and that you do not have people cranking all night to get things right IF their initial READ timing was out.
The two images of the READ belt have been flipped horizontally by the camera software, this is obvious when you look at the printing on the belt, it is backwards (mirror image).
Flipping the images back again presents them correctly.
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17th Dec 2022 6:59 am
Disco_Mikey
Member Since: 29 May 2007
Location: Dundee, Scotland
Posts: 20853
You are right Disco_Mikey - my apologies for having hammered this out so long.
My assertion that the cam pulley was twice the diameter of the FIP pulley was wrong - it is 1.5 times which means that as you said, turning the crank twice will correct the 180 deg.
For posterity, I finally confirmed this by counting the teeth on the FIP pulley in your photo above (24), and counting the teeth on a cam pulley which I finally managed to do via this photo (36).
18 spot welds, once every two teeth = 36 teeth.
I will amend previous posts to correct.
17th Dec 2022 7:09 am
Gary_P
Member Since: 03 May 2016
Location: Kent
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Only wish I could have put a bet on the outcome. I know where my money would have been.
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17th Dec 2022 10:35 am
DickBidgood
Member Since: 10 Nov 2019
Location: Folkestone
Posts: 3
Youtubers, LRTime have a video on changing the HP fuel pump belt, although it doesn't look easy.
10th Jan 2023 1:06 pm
confused disco 4 owner
Member Since: 10 Aug 2023
Location: manchester
Posts: 2
Hi All i have a disco 4 which needs a new hpdp am not sure which way to go if any one in the manchester area can advise on a good garage to change the pump and all belts that would be great's the task ahead looks daunting the least and i don't have a ramp to take the body off. help needed.
10th Aug 2023 5:28 pm
dunton10
Member Since: 23 Dec 2006
Location: SUTTON COLDFIELD, WEST MIDS
Posts: 213
My advice- book a holiday/short break in Scotland. Book into Disco Mickey (Dundee). Relax.
You will be in good hands and you know the job will be done right.
I drove up from the midlands to visit a relative in Dundee and got a full 7 year service and all fluids changed whilst there.Currently 2015 D4 SE Tech, Corris Grey
RLD Protector, led interior lights, timed climate, towing equipment
Previously
2006 D3 S
2001 TD5
1996 Shogun LWB
1989 Range Rover TDVM
11th Aug 2023 7:35 am
confused disco 4 owner
Member Since: 10 Aug 2023
Location: manchester
Posts: 2
Thanks for the advise Dunton 10 but the pumps a gonna and that means a truck recovery so need someone local but all the posts from Disco Mikey are a treat if you are hands on and got the tackle to try the jobs that these machines need i like mine but it does play on your mind when things go south.
once i get the basic done love to meet Disco Mikey and get the rest of the jobs done.
11th Aug 2023 4:07 pm
Skynet
Member Since: 23 Jul 2014
Location: Melksham, Wiltshire
Posts: 868
Time to resurrect an old thread
I bought a 2016 D4 last October which has had the engine replaced with a LR supplied unit.
Its a lovely car and smooth drive with one minor niggle that I'm trying to trace.
Now, with revs between 1200 -1600, I start to hear what sounds like wind reverb (similar to partially opening 1 window) but all windows and seals are good as are the A pillar covers.
So why am I posting on this thread? Well does anyone know what occurs with a 'mistimed' pump?
Now I've been searching for reasons that cause the 'reverb' and heard of 'resonance' in a 'mistimed' fuel pump. I've since read that even when the pump is slightly or oppositely misaligned the engine will run well enough.
I'm looking at this option as not long after I first bought the car I had occasion to plant my plant my right foot. The car made a 1 sec stall before launching off in a puff of black smoke (timing fuel starvation?). I haven't had cause to accelerate that hard since, but it will accelerate decently when I ask it to.
I'd appreciate your thoughts fella's
Cheers
DaveDave
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D4 2016 SE, White
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