dick dastardly wrote:

Japseroony, get a D4 and then have TFC tune it. Then you'll understand.

What would I understand and why would I do that when it aint been done yet by the main stream tool providers that some forum members/sponsors use, and that some claims being made are full of the smelly stuff

Martin wrote:

Please don't stir up trouble and throw accusations around.

Hi Martin,

How can fact be accusations I personally have spoken to all of the tool manutactures at a high level both in the UK and overseas who have confirmed they have not released this yet, not even for testing

Also, when false claims are being made, surely the members have a right to know

I am not trying to stir up anything or indeed cause any trouble but as this is something very close to my heart, for reasons I wont go into, I dont like false/impossible claims being made on an open forum.

When I was banned for a short while once before, you always said that if what ever I said was fact or indeed personal experience then you would allow my post to stand - the above is fact and personal experience.

Am I off to the naughty step again now

Japseroony wrote:

....some claims being made are full of the smelly stuff

That sounds like an accusation to me.

Feel free to share your information about what the tool suppliers have told you, but do so constructively. Given previous threads and actions taken I shouldn't have to tell you again