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Me too 2020 SDV6 D5 HSE, Carpathian Grey +
2022 Tesla Model Y LR... almost Carpathian Grey
Previously : 2005 TDV6 SE Auto, Cairns Blue (288K) - ours for 16 years
You feel the need to lock your car before paying for the fuel!
Errm.... yep!As you slide down the banister of life
may no splinters point your way
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6th Feb 2008 2:39 pm
ronp
Member Since: 29 Nov 2006
Location: North Yorkshire
Posts: 15214
I've already got something that should prevent misfuelling.
It's a yellow cap with the words DIESEL written in black!
sorry, I know it doesn't help the case I was a normal heterosexual chap, but in these new woke awakenings I now identify as a Wardrobe.
6th Feb 2008 4:39 pm
John C
Member Since: 28 Aug 2007
Location: East Yorkshire
Posts: 3292
It's not me I'm bothered about (I realise that's fatal to say - pride comes before a fall and all that) - it's other people using the car who normally fill up with petrol...2020 SDV6 D5 HSE, Carpathian Grey +
2022 Tesla Model Y LR... almost Carpathian Grey
Previously : 2005 TDV6 SE Auto, Cairns Blue (288K) - ours for 16 years
6th Feb 2008 4:41 pm
simonsi
Member Since: 14 Oct 2007
Location: Auckland
Posts: 1264
I bet 100% of people if asked would say they would never mis-fuel as they could tell petrol from diesel...but it still happens....Cheers
Simon
6th Feb 2008 5:27 pm
AndrewW
Member Since: 06 Aug 2007
Location: Saddleworth
Posts: 2302
I did contact the guy and he rang me today - they are very much in business but aiming at fleets and police forces. They are not at all against supplying individuals at no extra cost for small purchases but a group buy would have to be 15,000+ units
Questions
1. No international problems?
2. Self fit?
3. Transfer to next vehicle?
4. Splashback problems?
Answers
1. No
2. Yes, easy.
3. If you must, but may increase value of vehicle (a. asset, b. reduced likelihood of misfuel history and c. INSURERS may yet reward / demand its presence )
4. There WERE but definitely solved.
Go for it!
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6th Feb 2008 6:55 pm
B16 KJR
Member Since: 10 Jul 2006
Location: Rosyth, Fife
Posts: 3005
I assume ? a petrol nozzle is a larger diameter, so will not fit in this unit but a smaller diameter diesel nozzle would ?
6th Feb 2008 10:01 pm
AndrewW
Member Since: 06 Aug 2007
Location: Saddleworth
Posts: 2302
That, I believe, plus mysterious extra design features. Never having squinted up a petrol or a diesel nozzle, I don't know the difference, but the "thing" apparently relies on more than just diameter restriction. My guess is that petrol and diesel flow control feedback orifices are sited differently which would allow the device to interfere with petrol delivery and not diesel - but that's a pure guess.
PS it works in Oz, he said. so it doesn't matter which way up it is!2006 D3 finally swapped for a 2016 D4 Graphite in Graphite grey. No mods
6th Feb 2008 10:17 pm
simonsi
Member Since: 14 Oct 2007
Location: Auckland
Posts: 1264
B16 KJR wrote:
I assume ? a petrol nozzle is a larger diameter, so will not fit in this unit but a smaller diameter diesel nozzle would ?
Don´t think so, the UK ULP nozzle is smaller than the diesel (which is the same size as the old leaded nozzle now defunct).
The FFRR device apparantly needs the larger diesel nozzle to trigger mechanical sensor bars in the inlet and thereby avoid the blanking flap triggering, try it with petrol and the flap comes across and prevents any quantity entering the tank.
Wonder how easy to retrofit the FFRR fuel device???Cheers
Simon
6th Feb 2008 10:46 pm
smac343
Member Since: 13 Mar 2007
Location: Dorset
Posts: 236
ronp wrote:
I've already got something that should prevent misfuelling.
It's a yellow cap with the words DIESEL written in black!
sorry, I know it doesn't help the case
LOL Ronp i think i will be buying one as it was SWMBO who did the dirty... she used the excuse its her Hormones as she is 4 1/2 month pregnant (so i cant even shout at her)....
7th Feb 2008 12:32 am
Bushwanderer
Member Since: 27 Nov 2007
Location: Northern Rivers, NSW, Australia
Posts: 2050
B16 KJR wrote:
I assume ? a petrol nozzle is a larger diameter, so will not fit in this unit but a smaller diameter diesel nozzle would ?
IIRC ADRs (Australian Design Rules) require that a diesel fueled car be fitted with a narrower fuel intake to prevent this happening.
Best Wishes,
Peter
7th Feb 2008 7:21 am
robsmith
Member Since: 02 Sep 2007
Location: Staffordshire
Posts: 2392
This might give a bit of background to the device:
I did contact the guy and he rang me today - they are very much in business but aiming at fleets and police forces. They are not at all against supplying individuals at no extra cost for small purchases but a group buy would have to be 15,000+ units
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Did he mention a price? I couldn't see that anywhere.
regs
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7th Feb 2008 1:53 pm
simonsi
Member Since: 14 Oct 2007
Location: Auckland
Posts: 1264
Bushwanderer wrote:
IIRC ADRs (Australian Design Rules) require that a diesel fueled car be fitted with a narrower fuel intake to prevent this happening.
That still allows diesel to be put into a petrol car though, which currently can't happen with the UK diesel nozzle being larger than a ULP filler....
Nozzle size can only ever prevent one-way misfuelling but unless you have something like th FFRR device it will still be possible the other way around.
Not sure if putting diesel into a petrol would be just as bad/common though??Cheers
Simon
7th Feb 2008 2:06 pm
Bill Wright
Member Since: 03 Nov 2007
Location: Glorious Devon
Posts: 3254
I've emailed them for a price
I'll report back if they answer.
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