zig
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Quote:When I stop in traffic, as I have an automatic, I manually put the parkbrake on to prevent creep (I leave the vehicle in drive), rather than let my foot remain on the foot brake (which I believe can lead to brake disc warp on some types of vehicles).
Once I want to start moving I then let the vehicle automatically disengage the parkbrake by putting my foot on the accelerator.
This is the first vehicle I have owned that has an automatic gearbox although I have driven automatic a number of times on trips to the States.
It is also my first encounter with an electric parkbrake and at that one which automatically releases.
Is technique described above the same as that adopted by others with automatics?
Is this how others with automatics use the parkbrake or do they have a different technique?
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 15th Jan 2006 2:19 pm |
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lee01277
Member Since: 06 May 2005
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Its swings and roundabounts ...
Depends on how long the stop is. I guess I do this if I think I'd be p-ing off the driver behind with the brake lights.
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I've drivern automatics for the last 15 years (mostly Vauxhalls) , but this is the first auto (and 4x4..) I've had that you have to brake before engaging D from N ( always needed from P though), even if you are stopped with the hand brake on. I can see the reasoning behind this, but when you are in start / stop traffic, I used to like being able to add a squirt of D then back into N without foot intervention. Sort of just doing enough to keep up the flow on tick over. You can do this in the D3 if you are carefull, but if you happen to come to a dead stop, you then need to dab the brake before D is applied.
Also, when in an automatic car wash at the end, a quick dab on the brake is needed to get into D, which may upset the driver behind ...
Just me being lazy though I guess.... ..............Somewhere in-between my old D3 and what's to come next .........
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| 15th Jan 2006 3:04 pm |
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graemem
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Winger wrote:Beacuse of the nature of the drivetrain and the suspension - differentials etc. - a small amount of movement will be possible once the handbrake has been applied and the footbrake is released.
It feels like it moves much more than it actually does - more a rocking motion. Try coasting to a stop, then applying the parkbrake just before the vehicle stops.....it will stop abruptly, and rock a bit.
It is just the nature of the beast......
Hi Winger, my park brake was off and gear in 2nd. It still continued to roll down the hill, very slowly, but it kept moving. I stopped it after about 1.5-2metres. All of my other cars have always stayed rock solid when the gear is selected and brake off.
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| 15th Jan 2006 7:31 pm |
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Winger
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graemem wrote:Winger wrote:Beacuse of the nature of the drivetrain and the suspension - differentials etc. - a small amount of movement will be possible once the handbrake has been applied and the footbrake is released.
It feels like it moves much more than it actually does - more a rocking motion. Try coasting to a stop, then applying the parkbrake just before the vehicle stops.....it will stop abruptly, and rock a bit.
It is just the nature of the beast......
Hi Winger, my park brake was off and gear in 2nd. It still continued to roll down the hill, very slowly, but it kept moving. I stopped it after about 1.5-2metres. All of my other cars have always stayed rock solid when the gear is selected and brake off.
As I posted previously, that doesn't sound right to me. It should certainly hold firm in 2nd.
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| 15th Jan 2006 8:07 pm |
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Cliff H
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The handbrake should be excellent. I was talking to an Land rover experience instructor who said if you are due a new pair of trousers anyway try going at a reasonable speed and then use the handbrake to stop.
He said it stops you like nothing else!!!
Don't make a habit of it though! Zermatt silver 06 reg.
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| 15th Jan 2006 8:33 pm |
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Martin
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I may or may not have tried that trick with a courtesy D3  06 D3 SE / 15 LR D90 XS SW / 88 LR 90 Td5 / 68 BMW 2000 ti
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| 15th Jan 2006 8:37 pm |
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Cliff H
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Martin wrote:I may or may not have tried that trick with a courtesy D3
ooooooooooooohhhhhhhhhhhhh Martin I am surprised at you 
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| 15th Jan 2006 8:39 pm |
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Martin
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It may or may not have been very impressive for a 2.7 tonne vehicle 06 D3 SE / 15 LR D90 XS SW / 88 LR 90 Td5 / 68 BMW 2000 ti
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| 15th Jan 2006 8:41 pm |
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Cliff H
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 Zermatt silver 06 reg.
Gone but not forgotten !!!
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| 15th Jan 2006 8:42 pm |
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twincam escort
Member Since: 30 Oct 2005
Location: Midlands
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I had a Volvo once with the rear disc/handbrake shoe setup similar to the D3 and was told never to apply the handbrake with forward motion.
Apparently the handbrake shoes can 'wind up' and rip the linings off.
Not good 
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| 15th Jan 2006 8:45 pm |
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Dan
Member Since: 09 Aug 2005
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twincam escort wrote:I had a Volvo once with the rear disc/handbrake shoe setup similar to the D3 and was told never to apply the handbrake with forward motion.
Apparently the handbrake shoes can 'wind up' and rip the linings off.
Not good
As I understand it; with the D3 pulling the handbrake lever whilst moving at speed applies the ordinary brakes in a full emergency stop procedure, even applying the brake lights as well. I have tried it once and, as Martin says, it's very impressive 
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| 15th Jan 2006 9:23 pm |
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zig
Member Since: 09 Sep 2005
Location: Scotland
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Quote:pulling the handbrake lever whilst moving at speed applies the ordinary brakes in a full emergency stop procedure
Is there a speed below which does it does not use the ordinary brakes first?
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| 15th Jan 2006 11:29 pm |
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Piero
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I was taken out in a Brand New RRS (same handbrake as D3) and we applied the handbrake at 60mph to see what would happen, the car performed an emergency stop and God did it stop fast....very impressive actually for such a heavy vehicle.... 2006 TDV6 SE
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