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gstuart
 


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Mot failure

So alas mine failed yesterday and looks like it may be the end of the line

Brakes pipe from the air tank to the rear need replacing and the drivers side sill has rotted out , on top the rear lower wishbones

The mot station is going to drop it back off to me either today or tomorrow on a flat bed

Know it sounds daft but absolutely gutted after all the hard work

expect the work would be around 1k to just get it passed the MOT then the rear lower arms on top at a later date so would add an extra 7-800

Once back home I’ll be able to pull the plastic cover off to see the extent of the rust and get some pics


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Post #237756718th Sep 2024 7:27 am
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NJSS
 


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Sorry to her this. Big Cry
  
Post #237757018th Sep 2024 7:49 am
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gstuart
 


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Many thks ,

See u can get new sills for around £60 per side but of course won’t know how bad it will be until I pull the drivers side plastic cover off

Know we all go through this, just abit gutted
   
Post #237757218th Sep 2024 8:04 am
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Strip? It’s very therapeutic. Thumbs Up
   
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G3Z
 


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Why not keep it as a slow project repair.
You can pick up some 2nd hand as new rear arms to bring the cost down.
 Defender 110 2.4 TDCi Utility Station Wagon.

2007 Disco 3 GS TDV6 Manual
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Post #237758318th Sep 2024 8:59 am
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Wow, sorry to hear this Gary. You’ve spent a lot of time ( and no doubt, money ) on it, such a shame. The brake pipes are to be expected I suppose. See how bad the sill is, and if it can be repaired relatively easily. Thumbs Up
 D3 owned from new, P017 brake recall, BAS FBHIC, new FBH, LR013487 oil pump, new water pump. RRS front lower suspension arms. New suspension compressor/ relay. New Denso alternator. CuNifer rear brake pipes. New GKN rear propshaft. New HPFP belt & tensioner. New A/C Condenser.NO WARRANTY for many many years.  
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gstuart
 


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Many thks and think that’s a great idea to see what bits I need and how bad the sills are

Will be back today or tommorow , could then get the bits over the winter time and then start to save what money I can

May I ask Plse when welding is done is it just the battery that needs to be disconnected plse to prevent any modules etc getting spiked from the welder

Plus what fittings are needed to go from steel to kunifer and if the steel pipes need to be flared

New arms are around 400 inc new bolts and tie bars , must confess would prefer new but would concentrate on the sills and brake pipes first

Plus if I have to sorn the vehicle seeing its no got no mot plse , had road tax till next sep and insurance is still,valid

Indeed like many of us lost count the amount of time I’ve spent on it and of course money , lol

Thks again and gives me some hope but indeed think the rust will be a priority to see how deep it goes
   
Post #237758918th Sep 2024 9:41 am
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Worms
 


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The steel pipes will need to be flared at the point where you cut them. If you don't already have a flare tool, don't be tempted by some of the cheaper ones on Ebay/Amazon - flaring steel needs a decent tool. I bought steel tube and cut my own, but you can get ready-bent repair sections for the rear, which is probably a better idea - my pipe bending resulted in a bit of a mess, partly because the cut sections got a bit mangled during removal. Kunifer is much easier to work with.

Others will confirm, but I believe that for steel brake pipes, it is recommended to go with steel pipe unions rather than brass.
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‘93 Defender 110 200TDi CSW - still got this, non-runner on SORN.
‘87 Defender 90 4 cyl Petrol
‘83 110 CSW V8 - best ever!
Range Rover 2-door V8 (not sure of year - 4-speed box and vacuum diff switch)
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Pete K
 


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Sorry to hear this

It's worth checking if the Rust really is an issue. The D3 isn't like a normal car. I.e the chassis frame is the main structure and the cab and sills just bolt on to the structure.
The structure obviously needs to be good. And seat and seatbelt mounts need to be good.


Should be able to get the brake pipes done at the rear end. Plenty of threads on here about that.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/404912572700?_s...amp;edge=1


I would SORN it before the end of the month. Expensive to tax these days and you may as well have the money back for repairs or whatever.

Alternatively have a look at the forsale forum or maybe get a sensible car that doesn't need as much looking after
 

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Post #237759218th Sep 2024 10:02 am
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DN
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If you SORN it, you should get the remaining tax for any whole months, back. Prob best to keep the insurance running.
 D3 owned from new, P017 brake recall, BAS FBHIC, new FBH, LR013487 oil pump, new water pump. RRS front lower suspension arms. New suspension compressor/ relay. New Denso alternator. CuNifer rear brake pipes. New GKN rear propshaft. New HPFP belt & tensioner. New A/C Condenser.NO WARRANTY for many many years.  
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gstuart
 


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Many thks, have these brake flaring tools in both sizes , alas not sure if they can do steel pipe , also still have my benders from when I done boiler oil lines etc

Will have a good search ref brake pipes and sills to see what size unions etc I need

At least I know I can get new sills so won’t have to worry in trying to get some made

https://www.sp-4x4.com/DA1942_DISCOVERY_3_...da1942.htm

Another thing I’m very thankful is having such wonderful members here along with a huge library of repairs and for that I can’t begin to say how grateful I am

Plus at least this will help others in getting a list of the bits , but of course need to gauge the rust issue first

Thks again


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gstuart
 


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DN wrote:
If you SORN it, you should get the remaining tax for any whole months, back. Prob best to keep the insurance running.


Many thks and will look into that and advice ref insurance
   
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NJSS
 


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Gary. Do your research but consider Kunifer pipes for, as has been said, it is much easier to work with.

Insofar as insurance is concerned talk to your insurers about a lower level of cover, it might be worthwhile.

Good luck.

NJSS
  
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Pete K
 


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I've used that flare tool on fiesta steel brake pipes. No issues.

Don't be afraid to use copper brake pipe. bends easily. lasts longer than steel
  
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Gary iv sent you a pm on the other forum
  
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