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Dave wrote:
1 x spare wheel and tyre 20kg ish,
Whats it made out of Dave ...feathers ? ...might want to recalculate with 30KG + 21 year LR veteran > D2 GS 2003 > D3 S 2006 > D3 HSE 2009 > D4 HSE 2013 > D4 HSE 2015 > D5 HSE 2018 > DS HSE R-Dynamic P300e 2021
12th Apr 2012 9:18 am
Dave
Member Since: 08 Mar 2006
Location: North Yorkshire
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Oh, maybe an incy wincy bit more than 20kg then
20kg of feathers would be more than the volume/space capacity of the expo rack I bet Captain Nick Medhurst would ask:
"What is the first rule when overlanding?"
I would Reply:
"Duratrac"
12th Apr 2012 9:37 pm
er1c
Member Since: 24 Jan 2011
Location: New York
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Guys, I have a Baja Rack which weighs about 54kg, along with an ARB RTT which weighs around 90kg. I just drove from New York to Texas and back; in total 5600 kilometers. Let me tell you... at around 65 km/h, the stability was awful.
I just had new General Grabber AT2s mounted/balanced a few days before my trip, along with an alignment. It drove perfectly until I put the RTT on. So, if you're going the RTT route, definitely look for the lightest option possible. With a 144kg~ load on the roof, when a gust of wind came, it was challenging to keep it in the lane.
I'm driving from New York to Alaska and back next spring; a 16,000+ kilometer trip! Let's just say, next month I'm going to be buying an American military M416 trailer to put the RTT on.Long Ranger aux fuel tank, Traxide w/ yellow top battery, Sasquatch rods, G4 tail guards, GVIF 6.2, CarPC (Dual-Core Atom D525, 64GB SSD, 4GB DDR3 & M3-ATX 125W PSU, Win7 Pro 64 w/ Centrafuse 3.5), Yaesu FT-8900R ham radio w/ Comet CA-2x4SR, reverse CCD camera, RLD laptop seat mount, RLD roof antenna mount, Viair 400P compressor, 3K xenons, 2.5K halogen fogs, Series 3 mudflaps, 1.25" Wheel Spacers (Motorsport Tech), Baja Roof Rack
4th Aug 2012 8:12 pm
Bushwanderer
Member Since: 27 Nov 2007
Location: Northern Rivers, NSW, Australia
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65 km/h??? = 40mph.The Bearded Dragon
5th Aug 2012 12:27 am
Gareth Site Moderator
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That sounds wrong! I drove to Morocco with loads of weight on the roof (as did Slimer and DG) and we never had any handling problems at all.
If you say a gust of wind nearly blew it over at only 40mph, then I would be highly suspicious of the alignment you have just had done. Best get the rack off the roof and test it again, as I suspect something else is the real problem.
5th Aug 2012 7:57 am
er1c
Member Since: 24 Jan 2011
Location: New York
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As far as stability, I should have been more specific. It didn't feel like it was going to blow it over or have any sensation of rolling over at all. It just made it drift off of a straight line starting at speeds of 40 mph and up. Most of the 3500 miles (5600 km), I drove around 80mph (128 kph).
Driving through the southern states of America, the roads are straight shoots and go on for miles and miles. It was constant work to keep it straight though, especially when the wind gusts picked up.
I've had the rack on for a while, and never had handling issues. It only started when I added the 200 lb+ (90 kg) RTT to it. The 18-wheeler that delivered the RTT at the beginning of the month, had the ARB Series III Simpson tent box listed at 220 lbs (100kg). The Baja Rack weighs 120 lbs (54kg). So, together that's around 340 lbs (150kg~) of weight on the roof. At slower speeds, it handles fine and drives straight. The ARB tent collapsed is a bit bulky, so perhaps that's causing some aerodynamic drag, too.Long Ranger aux fuel tank, Traxide w/ yellow top battery, Sasquatch rods, G4 tail guards, GVIF 6.2, CarPC (Dual-Core Atom D525, 64GB SSD, 4GB DDR3 & M3-ATX 125W PSU, Win7 Pro 64 w/ Centrafuse 3.5), Yaesu FT-8900R ham radio w/ Comet CA-2x4SR, reverse CCD camera, RLD laptop seat mount, RLD roof antenna mount, Viair 400P compressor, 3K xenons, 2.5K halogen fogs, Series 3 mudflaps, 1.25" Wheel Spacers (Motorsport Tech), Baja Roof Rack
5th Aug 2012 12:14 pm
sebjones
Member Since: 14 Aug 2012
Location: Wales, UK
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if the limit is approx 75kg...how do two of you sleep in the roof tent ?
stupid question.. ?
20th Aug 2012 8:41 am
caverD3
Member Since: 02 Jul 2006
Location: Oberon, NSW
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How much does six full jerry cans and a spare wheel weight?
http://www.roverguide.com/14843/1000000th-...d-gallery/“There are only three sports: bullfighting, motor racing, and mountaineering; all the rest are merely gamesâ€
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20th Aug 2012 9:20 am
er1c
Member Since: 24 Jan 2011
Location: New York
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sebjones wrote:
if the limit is approx 75kg...how do two of you sleep in the roof tent ?
stupid question.. ?
That's the suggested weight rating for when you're actually driving. In a parked position, you're fine with having two full size adults in it.Long Ranger aux fuel tank, Traxide w/ yellow top battery, Sasquatch rods, G4 tail guards, GVIF 6.2, CarPC (Dual-Core Atom D525, 64GB SSD, 4GB DDR3 & M3-ATX 125W PSU, Win7 Pro 64 w/ Centrafuse 3.5), Yaesu FT-8900R ham radio w/ Comet CA-2x4SR, reverse CCD camera, RLD laptop seat mount, RLD roof antenna mount, Viair 400P compressor, 3K xenons, 2.5K halogen fogs, Series 3 mudflaps, 1.25" Wheel Spacers (Motorsport Tech), Baja Roof Rack
20th Aug 2012 1:41 pm
sebjones
Member Since: 14 Aug 2012
Location: Wales, UK
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ah right I see, so the physical load bearing of the roof bars can take 200 odd kg?
Thanks for clearing that up
20th Aug 2012 2:01 pm
er1c
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Location: New York
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With my rack, RTT, and two people, I had about 600 lbs (270 kg~) on the roof without any issues. I drove around for 5,000 miles this past month. I just took my RTT off and inspected the roof and not a single issue!Long Ranger aux fuel tank, Traxide w/ yellow top battery, Sasquatch rods, G4 tail guards, GVIF 6.2, CarPC (Dual-Core Atom D525, 64GB SSD, 4GB DDR3 & M3-ATX 125W PSU, Win7 Pro 64 w/ Centrafuse 3.5), Yaesu FT-8900R ham radio w/ Comet CA-2x4SR, reverse CCD camera, RLD laptop seat mount, RLD roof antenna mount, Viair 400P compressor, 3K xenons, 2.5K halogen fogs, Series 3 mudflaps, 1.25" Wheel Spacers (Motorsport Tech), Baja Roof Rack
20th Aug 2012 2:10 pm
sebjones
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that'l do me, cheers mate
20th Aug 2012 2:12 pm
er1c
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Cheers, mate! And here's a pic I snapped last week while camping in Maine, USA.
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Long Ranger aux fuel tank, Traxide w/ yellow top battery, Sasquatch rods, G4 tail guards, GVIF 6.2, CarPC (Dual-Core Atom D525, 64GB SSD, 4GB DDR3 & M3-ATX 125W PSU, Win7 Pro 64 w/ Centrafuse 3.5), Yaesu FT-8900R ham radio w/ Comet CA-2x4SR, reverse CCD camera, RLD laptop seat mount, RLD roof antenna mount, Viair 400P compressor, 3K xenons, 2.5K halogen fogs, Series 3 mudflaps, 1.25" Wheel Spacers (Motorsport Tech), Baja Roof Rack
20th Aug 2012 4:07 pm
caverD3
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It's reality versus nanny really.
If you have a problem with LR just point them to what they put on them.“There are only three sports: bullfighting, motor racing, and mountaineering; all the rest are merely gamesâ€
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...might want to recalculate with 30KG + 
And here's a pic I snapped last week while camping in Maine, USA.
