pagoda wrote:

Thanks, Al, that's very helpful. I may test drive one; the stealer is close by. I checked to see if they do the cargo divider for the D5 as they do with the D3 and 4 but it seems not. Such a shame. We'd be lost with out it the amount of crap we cart around.

pagoda wrote:

I'm in the US and the D4 prices here are rocketing - to the point where it's silly. D5 prices are nothing like as strong for second hand vehicles.

I want to replace by D3 V8 with a D4 2016 but I'm reluctant to pay what the vehicles are getting.

Can I ask for a few views from those who've had the D4 and the D5 what the difference is in terms of load carrying? We use the D3 as a workhorse. We do a lot of work around the house and it's used for everything from carrying 14 ft deck planks on the roof to top soil in the boot. We also need to be able to place two quite heavy kayaks on the roof and load it up for camping. We use the cargo barrier all the time, and the dog cage most of the time.

Any noticeable differences between the two vehicles as I'm wondering if I need to re-think my plan given D4 prices.

Would appreciate any thoughts.

A couple of things to add to what’s already been said:

1. The roof rails on the D4 are the best and most versatile I’ve ever used; you can fit as many cross bars as you like and put them wherever you want them. The rails on the D5 (which are almost identical to my current Fatty) are no where near as practical and robust. The ability to leave the drop down tailgate open and still close the top half also made it a great platform to stand on while loading/unloading the roof and finally, the near vertical sides made accessing the roof much easier. Consequently, I’ve sold my roof carrying stuff and now pull a trailer instead - would that help you? It gives a lot more practical space than even the D4 provided:



2. If the low loading height is helpful, bear in mind that the very lowest loading height possible in the ‘5 (even using the extra lowering facility in the boot) is only as low as the ‘4 was in its normal height setting.

Red Merle wrote:

pagoda wrote:

I'm in the US and the D4 prices here are rocketing - to the point where it's silly. D5 prices are nothing like as strong for second hand vehicles.

I want to replace by D3 V8 with a D4 2016 but I'm reluctant to pay what the vehicles are getting.

Can I ask for a few views from those who've had the D4 and the D5 what the difference is in terms of load carrying? We use the D3 as a workhorse. We do a lot of work around the house and it's used for everything from carrying 14 ft deck planks on the roof to top soil in the boot. We also need to be able to place two quite heavy kayaks on the roof and load it up for camping. We use the cargo barrier all the time, and the dog cage most of the time.

Any noticeable differences between the two vehicles as I'm wondering if I need to re-think my plan given D4 prices.

Would appreciate any thoughts.

A couple of things to add to what’s already been said:

1. The roof rails on the D4 are the best and most versatile I’ve ever used; you can fit as many cross bars as you like and put them wherever you want them. The rails on the D5 (which are almost identical to my current Fatty) are no where near as practical and robust. The ability to leave the drop down tailgate open and still close the top half also made it a great platform to stand on while loading/unloading the roof and finally, the near vertical sides made accessing the roof much easier. Consequently, I’ve sold my roof carrying stuff and now pull a trailer instead - would that help you? It gives a lot more practical space than even the D4 provided:



2. If the low loading height is helpful, bear in mind that the very lowest loading height possible in the ‘5 (even using the extra lowering facility in the boot) is only as low as the ‘4 was in its normal height setting.