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Irresponsible Green Lane Users
Feeling a bit annoyed...
Was out walking around Kings Forest, Bury St Edmunds and there is a greenlane (BOAT) through it, the Icknield Way. I've driven it before and it was a little rutted and worn but nothing too bad.
Today though it's clear, lots of people in agressive tyres have been driving it when wet. The ruts are over 2 feet deep in places. If people are not careful the track will be shut - its also heavily used by horse riders, motocross and walkers. The tyre marks were off 4x4 though!
I am sure it's not anyone from here, but please be careful otherwise others will take the right to drive these beautiful lanes from us.
The area in red on the map was the worst. Looks like someone has been very naughty!
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3rd Jan 2016 6:18 pm
Hairy Dan
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The thing is the people who have done the damage probably wouldn't be bothered if the lane is closed as they will still drive it anyway Cheers Ian
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3rd Jan 2016 6:57 pm
Mr.Tom
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In Suffolk and Cambs they tend to put a large gate across to stop them when they shut it... Sill protection - LED internal lights - LED reverse lights - boot liner - Dog Guard - Rock sliders
I've lost count of the times those responsible for this kind of behaviour have responded with the above, coupled with open threats towards anyone who "grasses". It's little wonder we're still losing lanes 10 years after NERC with this behaviour getting more common.
3rd Jan 2016 7:30 pm
Roob
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I have also come across this before in Kings Forest. A few years ago, a very large long hole appeared near the start of the track at the south side. You could see it was specifically dug to cross axle vehicles.
There is a couple of groups (who shall remain unnamed at this time), who arrange trips out to Kings Forest taking up to 5 or 6 vehicles for a day out.
Unfortunately these vehicles are mostly running aggressive mud terrain tyres, and are driven by people who are more concerned about how much mud they can fling around than how much damage they are causing, and the long term effects on not just the ground, but the accessibility to Kings Forest, as well as the reputation they give recreational 4x4 drivers.
A few farmers in the area have blocked routes previously with trees and concrete. I don't blame them.
Still, I hope you had a nice walk. It's lovely out there this time of year. In fact, it's great out there any time of year!
3rd Jan 2016 7:33 pm
lynalldiscovery
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I cant see many 4x4 being capable of leaving 2 foot deep ruts?
Iirc a defender/disco on 32 inch tyres has 9 inches under the diff.
I used to drive a lot of the Kent lanes up to about 18 months ago and some had serious abuse and loads of off piste use.
3rd Jan 2016 7:54 pm
DrRobH
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Look like Insa Turbo Special Tracks.....
3rd Jan 2016 8:43 pm
Mr.Tom
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lynalldiscovery wrote:
I cant see many 4x4 being capable of leaving 2 foot deep ruts?
Iirc a defender/disco on 32 inch tyres has 9 inches under the diff.
I used to drive a lot of the Kent lanes up to about 18 months ago and some had serious abuse and loads of off piste use.
The ruts are say 2 foot on one side, from where the ground was, the centre between the ruts is eroded and then another rut...
I measured one with my shoe, which is approx. a foot long! Overall though its a right mess.Sill protection - LED internal lights - LED reverse lights - boot liner - Dog Guard - Rock sliders
Wilts police issued 7 fixed penalties and 22 warning notices on Salisbury Plain today, for off-piste 4x4 use.
Usual uproar from the knuckle draggers along the lines of "ain't you got nuffink more important to do? My little Jezebel got looked at wrong by some bloke and I reckon he's a peeeeedo"
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3rd Jan 2016 8:52 pm
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3rd Jan 2016 8:54 pm
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3rd Jan 2016 9:24 pm
Mr.Tom
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Suprisingly as we walked onto the track a bit further up where it was not so rutted two 90's went past with some chunky tyres on.
Thought nothing of it, until I got a bit further down the track.
No idea what boots they had on though Sill protection - LED internal lights - LED reverse lights - boot liner - Dog Guard - Rock sliders
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3rd Jan 2016 9:52 pm
Mark Y
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Moo wrote:
You can picture them can't you: Raised suspension D1 or 90, big tyres, black bomber jackets, camo trousers and rigger boots.
I have an old 90, thousands spent on it , 2" lift, armoured axles, all sorts done to it , oh it has 35" simex tyres (not those cheap remould's).
So by having all this kit on my truck I could be stereotyped into that category of track wreckers, I'm nothing of a sort, in fact with my kit I rarely get out of tickover, apart from when I recover other off roaders, those that have been out with me or my others friends on off road tyres would hopefully agree.
Don't fall into the trap of some of those that use these lanes and then stereotype all off road users, I'm more than happy to let people know what they are doing is wrong when they go off piste .
3rd Jan 2016 10:12 pm
mse
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The problem is the other way round I think, I don't do any green landing any more.
Because there aren't the places to explore and enjoy, like the USA and many other countries and then in the uk people get so anal about use and like to complain and complain, including those nimbies there are even more reductions so less places to go, further adding pressure
There isn't an answer because it requires more tolerant people on all sides and more open accessMike
3rd Jan 2016 11:07 pm
Dave T
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Mark Y wrote:
Moo wrote:
You can picture them can't you: Raised suspension D1 or 90, big tyres, black bomber jackets, camo trousers and rigger boots.
I have an old 90, thousands spent on it , 2" lift, armoured axles, all sorts done to it , oh it has 35" simex tyres (not those cheap remould's).
So by having all this kit on my truck I could be stereotyped into that category of track wreckers, I'm nothing of a sort, in fact with my kit I rarely get out of tickover, apart from when I recover other off roaders, those that have been out with me or my others friends on off road tyres would hopefully agree.
Don't fall into the trap of some of those that use these lanes and then stereotype all off road users, I'm more than happy to let people know what they are doing is wrong when they go off piste .
Absolutely, our group does follow the green lane code and we definitely don't go off piste, but I do have cheap remoulds! Joined the BMWX5 45e group
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