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Harmon Kardon in MY2013
Hello Peeps,
tweaking my new toy again...
I have an HSE MY2013 with the standard hifi and have an urgent need of giving it more ummmmpf.
Is it me or is it on the ever so slightly feeble side with regards to dynamics? I have treble, base and sub turned to the max as at low (read old bloke settings) they are a must. Am I missing something? Just wanted your views as have had loads of electrical problems and wonder if my system is delivering the proper goods.
As an addendum, is there an after market upgrade that everyone reckons makes a huge difference?
2nd Apr 2013 6:34 pm
Robbie
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I find the same and in this regard it is much weaker than my D3 HSE. It only gets good at higher volumes.
The other strangeness is the difference in tone between FM and DAB, with FM being unusually flat.Land Rover - Turning Drivers into Mechanics Since 1948
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Bass +2 over centre
Treble +8 over centre
Sub +7 over centre
Put on "Scream and shout" by Britney bitch and Will I Am and knock it up to 35 8)21 year LR veteran > D2 GS 2003 > D3 S 2006 > D3 HSE 2009 > D4 HSE 2013 > D4 HSE 2015 > D5 HSE 2018 > DS HSE R-Dynamic P300e 2021
2nd Apr 2013 6:38 pm
mbw
Member Since: 15 Feb 2010
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What volume are you listening at? I think the standard system is ok at higher volumes but wimpy at lower ones.
I have a MY2013 HSE Lux with the 17 speaker 825 watt... its not wimpy at all. I have the treb/bass/sub turned up a little, but not much.
I think someone has explored upgrading to the better system. Maybe that is an option?
2nd Apr 2013 6:40 pm
Rich_S
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Robbie wrote:
I find the same and in this regard it is much weaker than my D3 HSE. It only gets good at higher volumes.
The other strangeness is the difference in tone between FM and DAB, with FM being unusually flat.
absolutely agree. Also have you had the DAB screech? gave me a severe fright the first time. Higher volumes I have no issue with, but realistically I'm not going to spend the remainder of my life deaf because Land Rover didn't add a "Loud" button for low volumes.
I also noticed that putting sound only in the rear of the car is truly tinny and awful, which again surprised me.
2nd Apr 2013 6:43 pm
Rich_S
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mbw wrote:
What volume are you listening at? I think the standard system is ok at higher volumes but wimpy at lower ones.
I have a MY2013 HSE Lux with the 17 speaker 825 watt... its not wimpy at all. I have the treb/bass/sub turned up a little, but not much.
I think someone has explored upgrading to the better system. Maybe that is an option?
If I were to go down this route I think I would probably take it to a specialist car audio company, as I'm thinking that how ever much it cost from LR, the same amount of money spent at the local sound shop will give a much better result.
2nd Apr 2013 6:46 pm
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Rich_S wrote:
Land Rover didn't add a "Loud" button for low volumes.
But surely that's what "volume" is for
The more I read the more I think you bought the wrong motor 21 year LR veteran > D2 GS 2003 > D3 S 2006 > D3 HSE 2009 > D4 HSE 2013 > D4 HSE 2015 > D5 HSE 2018 > DS HSE R-Dynamic P300e 2021
2nd Apr 2013 6:49 pm
steveraspberry
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+1 @ DG My17 Volvo XC90 Inscription
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2nd Apr 2013 7:22 pm
steveraspberry
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Me personally? This is the kind of thing that test drives are for. Why wouldn't you check for comfort, finish, sound quality etc? Especially when you're looking at dropping £50k for a car?
I just don't understand it. Every D4 I've had has had a superb stereo system IMHO, I have transported 5 teenagers with their "music" on loud on several occasions. If the stereo was lacking at all, I'm sure I'd have known about it.
Elsewhere there is someone complaining that the seat is uncomfortable on a MY13 HSE. Surely, you'd have tried adjusting it and then if you still found it uncomfortable, bought something else? My17 Volvo XC90 Inscription
MY15 Mitsubishi L200 Barbarian
RGK Tiga Fx Wheelchair,
Large Alsation called Abbs
Medium blue Staffie called Piglet
Medium Alsation called Bailey
2nd Apr 2013 7:28 pm
Rich_S
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DG wrote:
Rich_S wrote:
Land Rover didn't add a "Loud" button for low volumes.
But surely that's what "volume" is for
The more I read the more I think you bought the wrong motor
You would think...
I tried out my sister's D4 and none of the various issues raised it's head. If the truth be known, although very happy with the ride, for a 50k+ car it does have quite a few shortcomings. When mine was delivered to me a whole bunch of electrics didn't work including rear windows. Back to dealer for a full reset. I was worried that the hifi had suffered the same fate. I also agree with another member that the seats are as comfortable as a park bench. Without prompting, all my kids complained on our Easter trip to Wales. And as for the sat nav...so I'm not yet sold or gooey eyed about the d4....and I may still return it to dealer....so there ya have it..
2nd Apr 2013 10:12 pm
caverD3
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I find the same on mine.
Needs loudness in DSP. Not rocket science to do. Low and high frequencies cannot be heard by the human ear at low volumes.
You could get a most to analogue processor the a DSP (eg JBL MS2) to amps and the extra speakers. “There are only three sports: bullfighting, motor racing, and mountaineering; all the rest are merely gamesâ€
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2nd Apr 2013 10:26 pm
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I must have a different system to the rest of you ...Having had the old Hi-line in my frst D3 ....then the Logic 7 in my last D3... I think the dynamics of the sound and punchy quality of the speakers are far superior than before. Odd21 year LR veteran > D2 GS 2003 > D3 S 2006 > D3 HSE 2009 > D4 HSE 2013 > D4 HSE 2015 > D5 HSE 2018 > DS HSE R-Dynamic P300e 2021
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