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Moo wrote:
I can't understand how the D5 costs twice as much as its US cousin. An SE spec Explorer is about £30,000 and has enough capability for most peoples use. If Ford brought this to the UK I'm sure it would do very well. You could even debadge it and pretend its a D5.
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I was watching a show on Netflix and they were driving these. I thought they looked good and would certainly be interested if they brought it here. I tried the Edge and quite liked it but it wasn't quite large enough inside for my family. I think the explorer would be a viable alternative. As for the £30k price it would be a miracle if it came here at that price given the edge is £35k!
22nd Jan 2017 7:59 am
Red Merle
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Russell wrote:
Yes but you are on the D3 forum with a D4 and moaning about a D5
I thought it was a D3/4 forum...
22nd Jan 2017 8:08 am
Red Merle
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petersw wrote:
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But at least you D5'ers have somewhere to discuss your issues, as consenting adults, in private yet, bizarrely, prefer to come on here and air their dirty laundry in public! Razz Laughing
This is a D5 section & it is interesting to hear varied views
I (we?) enjoy the debate
Then let the debate continue (though it get a bit "controversial" in places!)
22nd Jan 2017 8:09 am
Braehead
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Red Merle wrote:
Russell wrote:
Yes but you are on the D3 forum with a D4 and moaning about a D5
I thought it was a D3/4 forum...
Have the offending posts moved to off topic then if it bothers you so much. "Foreign cars you'd like to see in the UK".
22nd Jan 2017 8:15 am
petersw
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Then let the debate continue (though it get a bit "controversial" in places!) Very Happy
Hehe yes.
I must warn you I'm a Jeremy Corbyn supporter, Labour Party & Momentum member so am thick skinned Peter
22nd Jan 2017 8:50 am
Russell
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Red Merle wrote:
Russell wrote:
Yes but you are on the D3 forum with a D4 and moaning about a D5
I thought it was a D3/4 forum...
There is three separate forums, D3, D4 and D5 I believe the D3 and D4 forums feed into each other with some infoMY17 D5 1st Edition Namib Orange
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22nd Jan 2017 8:54 am
Russell
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petersw wrote:
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But at least you D5'ers have somewhere to discuss your issues, as consenting adults, in private yet, bizarrely, prefer to come on here and air their dirty laundry in public! Razz Laughing
This is a D5 section & it is interesting to hear varied views
I (we?) enjoy the debate
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22nd Jan 2017 8:56 am
Moo D3 Decade
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Braehead wrote:
Moo wrote:
I can't understand how the D5 costs twice as much as its US cousin. An SE spec Explorer is about £30,000 and has enough capability for most peoples use. If Ford brought this to the UK I'm sure it would do very well. You could even debadge it and pretend its a D5.
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I was watching a show on Netflix and they were driving these. I thought they looked good and would certainly be interested if they brought it here. I tried the Edge and quite liked it but it wasn't quite large enough inside for my family. I think the explorer would be a viable alternative. As for the £30k price it would be a miracle if it came here at that price given the edge is £35k!
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22nd Jan 2017 9:26 am
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I wouldn't put Ford in the same price range as Land Rover. It's a bit like saying a Mondeo should be the same price as a Mercedes E class,
I'm not suggesting that one is better than the other, better made or works any better but i personally see Ford in a diiferent market sector to Land Rover, if the Ford came to the UK it wouldn't be 30K, and it wouldnt be targeted in the same sector as LR, VOLVO etc, And i'd have an Explorer, had one for 3 weeks last summer in California and it was great. I did say to Mrs at that time IF the new Disco is anything like this i'm definitely having one...
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22nd Jan 2017 9:57 am
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That's the rub... LR are trying to move the whole brand into a higher price bracket. Are we at the stage where people will pay significantly more just because it says Land Rover or Discovery? I'm not sure how big a premium the 'brand' is worth. When you look at the starting prices for things like the Porsche Macan and Maserati Levante, you quickly realise what price bracket JLR are now playing in. It's not going to be as easy as it once was!2005 D3 HSE 2011 D4 Landmark 2016 D4 HSE Lux
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22nd Jan 2017 10:22 am
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Re: Good looking D5s
fat bloke wrote:
But they are very lonely on their site as at moment only 194 members/buyers to be ?
A bit like the D3 site in the early days then
1st member Martin joined 6th November 2004
194th member BravoOne joined 17th June 2005
Thats 8 months to get 194 members whereas the D5 site only took 6 months to hit the same figure. Just saying.
Also please note that Martin created this place to discuss the D5 if you dont like it hit the red triangle and perhaps Martin will close/lock the Discovery 5 - L462 section.
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22nd Jan 2017 10:25 am
Red Merle
Member Since: 30 Aug 2014
Location: Liskeard
Posts: 7441
petersw wrote:
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Then let the debate continue (though it get a bit "controversial" in places!) Very Happy
Hehe yes.
I must warn you I'm a Jeremy Corbyn supporter, Labour Party & Momentum member so am thick skinned
Good grief, you do pick your causes! You're going to need that thick skin there!
PS: I have no political allegiance, whether the politician in question is a 1970's / Citizen Smith throw-back, like Corbyn, or an idiotic and naive opportunist, like Maye or Johnson, or an outright loonie, such as our new friend Donald, I shall treat them very fairly and with equal contempt
22nd Jan 2017 10:28 am
Red Merle
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But they are very lonely on their site as at moment only 194 members/buyers to be ?
A bit like the D3 site in the early days then
1st member Martin joined 6th November 2004
194th member BravoOne joined 17th June 2005
Thats 8 months to get 194 members whereas the D5 site only took 6 months to hit the same figure. Just saying.
Sure you think that forum users is a meaningful statistic?
Internet users in 2004/5 were 8-900 million or so - around 13% of the world's population. Internet users now - over 3,675 million - over 50% of the world's population.
Calculate that back and that makes the D3 site pickup over 3 times the rate relative to the number of internet users...
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22nd Jan 2017 11:02 am
chalky
Member Since: 21 Aug 2008
Location: Yorkshire
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crews control wrote:
That's the rub... LR are trying to move the whole brand into a higher price bracket. Are we at the stage where people will pay significantly more just because it says Land Rover or Discovery? I'm not sure how big a premium the 'brand' is worth. When you look at the starting prices for things like the Porsche Macan and Maserati Levante, you quickly realise what price bracket JLR are now playing in. It's not going to be as easy as it once was!
I dont know about you but I've always found LR to way overpriced, and the Macan etc all look good value until you see that the things you want to add on come to £63K. The problem with the car market in general is that these PCP's have gotten people by the balls, literally... they create everything that the industry needs, churn, repeat sales, an auction stock, used dealers stock. More OEM's are opening up or selling USED Veh's specifically because they can hit that market with finance having financed the veh ib a previous life through a PCP. Its's working for them, we are buying more New cars than ever and most households usually have 2 or 3 vehs minimum so you are hitting every price point, New, Used approved and a used from a private seller. Cars are becoming more like mobile phones and are changing all the time, we just want the next thing and the next thing and the next. Well some of us do, I've personally waited a long time for the D5 having rejected a D3.5 for the past 7 years. i did get my fingers burnt on a Freelander none sporty thing though. Now that was a bad car !Only dead fish go with the Flow !
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