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luv_my_v8
 


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Gas Question

We have a couple of Camping Gaz 907 cylinders that we use with our two burner gas stove and gas fridge (via a tee-connector). I last bought a refill around three years ago, for about 12 quid IIRC. Anyway, I went into our local garden centre to get a refill today and was quoted £31.95! Shocked The owner, who I know, said that prices had rocketed at the start of the first cold winter in 2010, and had never really fallen back.

Anyway, she recommended propane as an alternative. £15 for a slightly larger refill, plus £7 for a new regulator. This seems like a good idea. We camp well into the cold weather, and I understand that propane performs better in cold weather compared to butane.

My question is, will it be OK to run the existing fridge and cooker on propane, assuming I have the correct regulator?

All advice gratefully received. Thumbs Up
  
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I'm no expert but I see a lot of 47Kg propane bottles by Hobby Caravans on the verges from time to time so I can only assume it works!
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I have always used propane in my caravans Thumbs Up
  
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I'm no expert but:-

Quote:
There are two types of LPG - Propane and Butane. They have similar properties but different applications. They are not interchangeable due to the different operating pressures and burner settings required. Valves and fittings are also different to avoid confusion or accidental use of the wrong type of LPG.


Source:-

http://www.avantigas.com/propane-butane/

BUT

also see:-

http://www.ukcampsite.co.uk/chatter/displa...Position=1

http://www.ukcampsite.co.uk/chatter/displa...;searchIn=

It seems price per MJ is virtually identical !

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I have used Propane gas in many caravans over the last 40 years. Never had any problems. Make sure you have a propane regulator, usually red in colour. Much better size than the Camping Gaz.
  
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Used Propane for 30 years + Thumbs Up

If you try using Butane when it gets cold, you'll find out why Whistle
  
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I needed a refill on our Camping Gaz 907 cylinder mid last week at the campsite we use in Dartmouth.

Their price was £23.50, so I'd say your garden centre is a bit expensive.

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I just swapped my 2 butane cylinders for the new Calor Lite propane cylinders. Just fitted a new regulator and everything works fine in the caravan, about £20 for 6kg cylinder fill. The Calor Lite bottles have a built in gauge which is quite useful but no substitute for picking them up and shaking!
  
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Same here - just swapped two 7kg Butane for two 6kg Calor lightweight Propane - with a new regulator - not a problem.

Quite a few of the caravan dealers will tell you Calor wont do the swap (as there was a shortage of lightwieght bottles), but find a Calor center directly, and they will.

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Thanks for the useful responses folks. I'll be getting a propane regulator, so sounds like I should be OK. Thumbs Up

Regarding pricing, that kind of thing does tend to be more expensive up our way. Higher transport costs and less competition I suppose. I might shop around a bit though, although the lady at the garden centre has said she'll be happy to take my butane cylinder in exchange for the propane one.

I know all about the problems with butane in the cold, having tried using the flat cartridge stoves Rolling Eyes but I didn't realise until I had a good look at the cylinder,that Camping Gaz is pure butane. I thought it was a butane/propane mix like the small coleman cylinders. Embarassed
  
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try these : www.safefill.co.uk
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Thanks for the link. To be honest, we probably don't use enough gas for it to be cost effective, plus the nearest refill station is a 25 mile drive!
  
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Hi,
don't forget to have a look at the HHWSites I have just picked up a 907 must be nearly full Smile

Although it may end up on the bay of fleas yet..... do you still have to pay £60 deposit Shocked for a new camp gaz cylinder?
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Hi, propane is fine for all the appliances as long as the regulator is the correct one.
Propane really has no negative points at all, it's the perfect all rounder for caravaning and camping.
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I'm worried now. I'm sure the dealer our van came from said that the bulkhead fitted regulator was fine to use with both propane and butane. Did I mis-hear that? I'm using the red lightweight propane at the moment with no obvious issues. Do I need to check that I have the correct regulator?
  
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