Yesterday I had the very latest standard engine and gearbox software updates applied and I feel as though I have a different vehicle. I've done about 100 miles or so and it is as smooth as silk ...no more uncultured changes, jumping around or feeling that it was in too low a gear at junctions or roundabouts .....this I believe was caused by the supposed hesitation resolver LTB00545. I found that patch bloody awful tbh. MPG appears to be improving also after I went from around 32 to 28 overnight...though I suspect I need at least a week or two to make a formal judgement on that
Anyway I am a very, very happy bunny again and thanks to GSTD 21 year LR veteran > D2 GS 2003 > D3 S 2006 > D3 HSE 2009 > D4 HSE 2013 > D4 HSE 2015 > D5 HSE 2018 > DS HSE R-Dynamic P300e 2021
17th Oct 2013 8:04 pm
galwaygreen
Member Since: 30 Oct 2011
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hello DG
we have had our d4 5 weeks and a 1000 miles...from new
went in today to check as we have had hesitation problems
dealer tells me we have latest gismo
so why have we still got hesitation.
our chassis is 68......which is OUTSIDE the one suggested in 545v2
have tried to get hold of pete at lr but out of office until 21 oct.............
SO...just what update did you get and how old your disco please.........
17th Oct 2013 8:21 pm
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Excellent news!
What is this new update called, does it have a service bulletin number?Land Rover - Turning Drivers into Mechanics Since 1948
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Guys I'm sorry but I have no idea what the software is and I didn't have time to hang around for him to find out though I will give James a call and ask ...I was just told that it had been flashed with "the very latest" ...I've trawled TOPIx and I can't find a TSB ...but then I don't expect there to be a TSB as this is the very latest "stock" software that service are sent periodically.21 year LR veteran > D2 GS 2003 > D3 S 2006 > D3 HSE 2009 > D4 HSE 2013 > D4 HSE 2015 > D5 HSE 2018 > DS HSE R-Dynamic P300e 2021
17th Oct 2013 8:27 pm
Robbie
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My car is off to Duckworth's soon so hoping to give them a steer towards 'the latest'. Hopefully someone will have a name/number/ID for it.Land Rover - Turning Drivers into Mechanics Since 1948
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DG you're such a tease......
You've got us all excited and you leave us hanging......
17th Oct 2013 8:43 pm
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galwaygreen My D4 is a 2013MY built in December 2012. I never felt that I had the hesitation but had the LTB00545 update put on out of curiosity more than anything. While it was more "keen" to go I felt that the box had lost it's sophistication totally ...it seemed to go too far down the box on a rolling approach to juncs so when you put your foot down there was almost an action of engine braking before it suddenly took off. Not pleasant at all.
Overall, I felt that 545a was a cobbled together solution that addressed some issues but actually made a lot more. I went yesterday praying that there would be a positive difference and so far that is proving correct.
EDIT FC ...I do try 21 year LR veteran > D2 GS 2003 > D3 S 2006 > D3 HSE 2009 > D4 HSE 2013 > D4 HSE 2015 > D5 HSE 2018 > DS HSE R-Dynamic P300e 2021
17th Oct 2013 8:47 pm
galwaygreen
Member Since: 30 Oct 2011
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hi DG
you appear to have same problems as us....ours built july 2013 i think....and with chassis number
68....... its outside the 545v2 bulletin....my dealer was at a loss what to recomend as we have the "latest" whatever that amounts too
going to get hold of pete at lr next week to see if he can resolve the issue......
dont think my dealer is going to do anymore unless LR advise what to do...........
clearly something no right
not stopping us using the car ..just have to watch your back
18th Oct 2013 8:15 pm
DeeJay
Member Since: 07 Jan 2011
Location: Devon
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As a follow up to DG's post. I had the original update done a few months back and it appeared to solve the issue of hesitation for a while, but of late it had deteriorated to the point of being back to square one again. My D4 went in for service last week and I mentioned this to the dealer. he was aware of the problem and applied a fix which as DG stated made the vehicle as smooth as silk. It appears so I was told, that this new fix syncs all of the relevant sensors, so it was not just gearbox software. Interestingly the dealer told me that the same or similar fix has been applied to RRS and FL2's.
18th Oct 2013 9:38 pm
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galwaygreen wrote:
hi DG
you appear to have same problems as us
Sorry but I don't think I do at all tbh ...I never had hesitation in the first place but thought that the hesitation patch would be better....it wasn't and I've gone back to stock software. 21 year LR veteran > D2 GS 2003 > D3 S 2006 > D3 HSE 2009 > D4 HSE 2013 > D4 HSE 2015 > D5 HSE 2018 > DS HSE R-Dynamic P300e 2021
18th Oct 2013 9:51 pm
Spacepig
Member Since: 08 Sep 2013
Location: Tokyo
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How to know if you have the latest Update on your car (engine and GB)? Just ask to the dealer?
Also what is the update number you are referring too that I make sure that my dealer understand my rough Japanese.
Oh and a last one, I have a V8 Engine, does this apply too? (No Diesel in Japan)
Thnks
19th Oct 2013 6:11 am
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Spacepig this is about diesel v6
There is no TSB type "update" for what I have had done ...I just asked for the latest stock software for the vehicle. I am trying to find out if there is a casual part number for it so others can compare.21 year LR veteran > D2 GS 2003 > D3 S 2006 > D3 HSE 2009 > D4 HSE 2013 > D4 HSE 2015 > D5 HSE 2018 > DS HSE R-Dynamic P300e 2021
19th Oct 2013 7:33 am
Dave T
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DeeJay wrote:
As a follow up to DG's post. I had the original update done a few months back and it appeared to solve the issue of hesitation for a while, but of late it had deteriorated to the point of being back to square one again. My D4 went in for service last week and I mentioned this to the dealer. he was aware of the problem and applied a fix which as DG stated made the vehicle as smooth as silk. It appears so I was told, that this new fix syncs all of the relevant sensors, so it was not just gearbox software. Interestingly the dealer told me that the same or similar fix has been applied to RRS and FL2's.
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22nd Oct 2013 1:45 pm
JonM
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I phoned the dealer yesterday. They don't know whether there's an update for my car or not until they plug it in and interrogate it. So it's booked in with their Spanish Inquisitor on Monday.
I've had the "hesitation" fix for a few months but still have problems with it bogging down from a standing start - so hopefully this will finally sort it out - I'll see on Monday.MY2022 D5 HSE D300 - with extra nice bits added
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22nd Oct 2013 1:51 pm
DeeJay
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Yes well worth it Dave, I'm sure it has improved the MPG too, regularly getting 35/36 on the onboard read out before it was barely making 30..
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