angasreid
Member Since: 29 May 2007
Location: VA
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cave fatuos!
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Slimer
Site Moderator
Member Since: 06 Jan 2005
Location: Last Exit to Nowhere
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Or rather than lining your pockets you could provide the instructions for people to do it themselves or they could spend the money with their dealer and get a software update which will enable nav on the move The End
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| 23rd Apr 2008 4:54 pm |
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jwest
Member Since: 09 Jun 2006
Location: USA
Posts: 114
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Dealers here would laugh at us if we asked to have them help us be dangerous "on the move". I would bet you $1000 we could sue a dealer for allowing such a function that was deemed the cause of an accident here in the US. Isn't it wonderful, no one here is responsible enough for their own actions that we now have to basically be protected from ourselves.  96 Disco I, 210,000 miles - still going strong
04 Disco II, Vienna/Tundra, +2" lift, onboard air, 120V...
07 LR3 HSE
2008 Audi S4 Avant mt6
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| 23rd Apr 2008 5:27 pm |
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Martin
Site Admin and Owner
Member Since: 06 Nov 2004
Location: Hook Norton
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You've implied copyright infringment, which is illegal and not tolerated on this site.
This is not new information, the change is to remove the LOADING.KWI file and burn a new Dual-Layer DVD. 06 D3 SE / 15 LR D90 XS SW / 88 LR 90 Td5 / 68 BMW 2000 ti
Any issues with the site let me know!
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| 23rd Apr 2008 6:36 pm |
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MacGuruTX
Member Since: 03 Apr 2008
Location: San Diego
Posts: 17
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jwest wrote:
Dealers here would laugh at us if we asked to have them help us be dangerous "on the move". I would bet you $1000 we could sue a dealer for allowing such a function that was deemed the cause of an accident here in the US. Isn't it wonderful, no one here is responsible enough for their own actions that we now have to basically be protected from ourselves.
But given that every other car NAV I've owned has no problem with this I think the LR blocking it is pretty stupid. Especially since using the logic that i can be sued if you use it, they shouldn't install the NAV at all. Given the number of people that have apparently blithely followed it into lakes or fields, especially in the UK.
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| 23rd Apr 2008 6:44 pm |
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WOODY179
Member Since: 01 Jun 2005
Location: Chesterfield
Posts: 3655
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you mean like this idiot
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/norfolk/7362254.stm
 1996 Discovery 1 300TDI ES Biarritz Blue, sold
1999 Discovery 2 TD5 ES Rioja Red, sold
2002 Discovery 2 TD5 ES Buckingham Blue, sold
2005 Discovery 3 TDV6 HSE Adriatic Blue, sold
2006 Discovery 3 TDV6 HSE Zambezi Silver, sold
2011 Discovery 4 SDV6 HSE Nara Bronze, sold
2016 Volvo XC60 D5 AWD Lux Nav Twilight Bronze, sold
2020 Range Rover Evoque P250 First Edition, Nolita grey, sold
2023 Range Rover Evoque P300e Autobiography, Carpathian grey
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| 23rd Apr 2008 6:49 pm |
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crews control
Member Since: 18 Mar 2007
Location: Dorset
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Silly question, I some idiot (me) has already put in the latest DVD and the software automatically upgraded - is there any way to roll it back to the previous version or have I lost 1791 forever? I'm thinking some sort of hard boot or factory reset. I am of course assuming this wasn't some sort of firmware update ??? 2005 D3 HSE
2011 D4 Landmark
2016 D4 HSE Lux
2017 Ford Tourneo VR46
Club Waitomo
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| 23rd Apr 2008 7:26 pm |
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WOODY179
Member Since: 01 Jun 2005
Location: Chesterfield
Posts: 3655
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I believe that you can not go back, when you install the latest nav disc it first does a software update. I think the only option you would have is to get the dealer to do the nav on the move upgrade. 1996 Discovery 1 300TDI ES Biarritz Blue, sold
1999 Discovery 2 TD5 ES Rioja Red, sold
2002 Discovery 2 TD5 ES Buckingham Blue, sold
2005 Discovery 3 TDV6 HSE Adriatic Blue, sold
2006 Discovery 3 TDV6 HSE Zambezi Silver, sold
2011 Discovery 4 SDV6 HSE Nara Bronze, sold
2016 Volvo XC60 D5 AWD Lux Nav Twilight Bronze, sold
2020 Range Rover Evoque P250 First Edition, Nolita grey, sold
2023 Range Rover Evoque P300e Autobiography, Carpathian grey
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| 23rd Apr 2008 7:29 pm |
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umbertob
Member Since: 24 Jun 2006
Location: Pasadena, CA
Posts: 95
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Correct. Both 2006/7 and 2007/8 discs update the satnav's firmware when loaded in the drive for the first time, wiping out the 1791 back door code for good in the process. At least in the UK you can get the on-the-move update from your dealer and get rid of the block for good. In North America, you're screwed for the long haul. Umberto B
2006 RRS HSE white / ebony / lux / RSE / PTI / LRD / Sirius. Going, going...
2013 LR4 HSE red / arabica / black pack / 7-seat lux / HD pack / RSE / Vison Assist / Sirius
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| 23rd Apr 2008 7:54 pm |
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angasreid
Member Since: 29 May 2007
Location: VA
Posts: 26
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miserabile vulgus
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| 23rd Apr 2008 9:19 pm |
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Ken
Member Since: 20 Feb 2006
Location: Here
Posts: 10865
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| 23rd Apr 2008 9:27 pm |
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simon
Member Since: 11 Jan 2005
Location: Shropshire
Posts: 18296
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Sorry chap... its not a backup... especially if your doing the backup from your own hacked backup and then charging people for DVD with your backup on it.
Its called copyright theft and is illegal here.
May not be in the United States of the American Peso of course, but I doubt it.
Sell em on FleaBay, not here.
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| 23rd Apr 2008 9:30 pm |
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DG
Site Moderator
Member Since: 12 Dec 2005
Location: The Gaff
Posts: 50979
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I suspect you will find that it is an infringement on two fronts:
A\ you have altered copyright protected software by removing content
B\ the individual may be entitled to make a back up copy ...but in your case they aren't ..they are buying your chop shop copy for 50 bucks
This type of action cannot be condoned on this site and I hope that the moderators deal with it in an appropriate manner  21 year LR veteran > D2 GS 2003 > D3 S 2006 > D3 HSE 2009 > D4 HSE 2013 > D4 HSE 2015 > D5 HSE 2018 > DS HSE R-Dynamic P300e 2021
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| 23rd Apr 2008 9:32 pm |
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simon
Member Since: 11 Jan 2005
Location: Shropshire
Posts: 18296
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angasreid wrote:Sorry you urban-offroaders in the UK have such an issue with this.
FRACK off Septic.
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| 23rd Apr 2008 9:32 pm |
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NoDo$h
Member Since: 02 May 2006
Location: Finding new and exciting ways to milk badgers.
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angasreid wrote:Sorry you urban-offroaders in the UK have such an issue with this.
You do know Martin OWNS this forum? 
Do me a favour and think of something unpleasant to say to yourself about your parents would you? I can't be f d to respond to the ill-informed urban dig. I know it's not considered "kind" to say no these days, but no. Just no, ok? And if it's not ok, still no.
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