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Ron Dunbar
Member Since: 03 Aug 2005
Location: Glasgow
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The standard towbar option comes with 7pin towbar electrics.
Has anyone persuaded a LR dealer to fit one with the Euro single 13 pin socket?
For those who aren't familiar, these connectors are (in my opinion) far superior to the UK twin 7pin.
The were supplied on X5, Range Rovers and some other Euro cars as a standard option, but now seem to have been dropped for the Disco3. Ron Dunbar
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 3rd Aug 2005 9:00 pm |
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10forcash
Member Since: 09 Jun 2005
Location: Ubique
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Ron,
not come accross it, although it souns like a 'two for the price of one' offer, in an Asda sort of way... 
Is this not just the French trying to impose 'vive la difference' upon us proud Brits?
There appears to be a multitude of adaptors available, looks like a chicken & egg conundrum to me  If you're going to spend most of your time with GB trailers / tin tents go for the 7+7, if it's going to be Eurotrash, go for the 13... (although you may need to cross the water to get a socket fitted)
Not much help I know, (nothing new there then )
Cheers,
10forcash
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| 3rd Aug 2005 9:30 pm |
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BN
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Ron Dunbar wrote:The standard towbar option comes with 7pin towbar electrics.
Has anyone persuaded a LR dealer to fit one with the Euro single 13 pin socket?
For those who aren't familiar, these connectors are (in my opinion) far superior to the UK twin 7pin.
The were supplied on X5, Range Rovers and some other Euro cars as a standard option, but now seem to have been dropped for the Disco3.
13 pin sockets are the new format which apply to trailers such as the caravans with aircon and extras that the traditional grey and black can no longer cope with. You can of course get a conversion adapter.
Take a look at this link: http://www.caravanhandboek.nl/kboom/techdoc.htm
Further to this item, you may recall I took LR to task about the failing ability of cutting out the rear intensity lights when towing.
On the link above it states, as we know that Germany it is law to cut out these lights, but in the UK it is not. HOWEVER it is recommended.
I think I will get back to LR and get my harness from Germany after all, but now with written evidence.
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| 3rd Aug 2005 10:02 pm |
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woodman438
Member Since: 08 May 2005
Location: Herts, UK
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be aware that a wiring problem exsisted in the factory fit towbar, dont know if this is going to affect the operation of the adaptor but i assume so
http://www.wood-man.demon.co.uk/wiring.pdf
its VIN specific so easy to check
Regards
W D3 JB/B V6 HSE + DVD and NAVtv addon, Steps, Tints, PTI
DVD Modified for front screen display, retro gaming unit added and Road Angel installed. Kahn RSC2-22 wheels
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| 4th Aug 2005 5:58 am |
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Ron Dunbar
Member Since: 03 Aug 2005
Location: Glasgow
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Just a follow-up here.
I got my dealer to investigate, and you can spec the D3 with the 13pin Euro Trailer wiring/socket - no cost difference. It's just not quoted in the UK price list.
If you've never seen a 13pin plug/socket, have a look at one. It's a quarter turn positive locking connecter that's so much better than the push-in fall out 7pins.
Most also have a rubber seal that makes the electrical connections splashproof. Ron Dunbar
Grey D4 TDV6 HSE
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| 17th Aug 2005 9:17 pm |
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BN
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Thats an interesting point guys nearly forgot, LR are supplying my harness from Germany (FOC) to cut out the fog lights when towing. Been informed today, will not effect warranty which was their get out. So if you want a harness down to your dealer and ask for one. I will try to get the part number. SUCCESS
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| 17th Aug 2005 9:21 pm |
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Martin
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Agree that 13 pin electrics are superior to the 12N/S UK stuff, Dad's just fitted a 13 pin socket to the 110, and it's far better both construction and sealing wise 8) 06 D3 SE / 15 LR D90 XS SW / 88 LR 90 Td5 / 68 BMW 2000 ti
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| 17th Aug 2005 9:23 pm |
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10forcash
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BN wrote:Thats an interesting point guys nearly forgot, LR are supplying my harness from Germany (FOC) to cut out the fog lights when towing. Been informed today, will not effect warranty which was their get out. So if you want a harness down to your dealer and ask for one. I will try to get the part number. SUCCESS
does it interact with the cruise control?
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| 17th Aug 2005 9:25 pm |
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BN
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Martin wrote:Agree that 13 pin electrics are superior to the 12N/S UK stuff, Dad's just fitted a 13 pin socket to the 110, and it's far better both construction and sealing wise 8)
I dare not ask for a 13 pin now I have my standard German version coming
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| 17th Aug 2005 9:25 pm |
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Slimer
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BN wrote:Thats an interesting point guys nearly forgot, LR are supplying my harness from Germany (FOC) to cut out the fog lights when towing. Been informed today, will not effect warranty which was their get out. So if you want a harness down to your dealer and ask for one. I will try to get the part number. SUCCESS
I'd be interested in that part no. Brian, I've been putting off getting the towing electrics for my D3 partly for this very reason. I'm still really suprised it's not standard over here. Is it all new tow electrics or just an extra bit?
Cheers
Si The End
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| 17th Aug 2005 10:47 pm |
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Slimer
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Martin wrote:Agree that 13 pin electrics are superior to the 12N/S UK stuff, Dad's just fitted a 13 pin socket to the 110, and it's far better both construction and sealing wise 8)
13 pin is certainly superior, the problem is the majority of trailers and caravans over here have 7 pin plugs so you have to change them as well, or use an adapter which kind of ruins the advantage of having the 13 pin socket.
I suppose you could fit both  The End
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| 17th Aug 2005 10:50 pm |
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BN
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Slimer wrote:BN wrote:Thats an interesting point guys nearly forgot, LR are supplying my harness from Germany (FOC) to cut out the fog lights when towing. Been informed today, will not effect warranty which was their get out. So if you want a harness down to your dealer and ask for one. I will try to get the part number. SUCCESS
I'd be interested in that part no. Brian, I've been putting off getting the towing electrics for my D3 partly for this very reason. I'm still really suprised it's not standard over here. Is it all new tow electrics or just an extra bit?
Cheers
Si
The dealer is obtaining the harness slimer. When it arrives providing the dealer is OK to fit it, the warranty and fees will be paid for by LR. They accepted my arguement that if one country in the EI fits the device, no warranty would be effected, which of course was just a wriggle at the time.
Will let you know the result. Seat also progressing now.
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| 18th Aug 2005 6:25 am |
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Slimer
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BN wrote:Will let you know the result. Seat also progressing now.
Great  The End
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| 18th Aug 2005 8:06 am |
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pers1
Member Since: 06 Jan 2005
Location: Norway
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| Re: 13 pin Towbar Electrics |
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Ron Dunbar wrote:The standard towbar option comes with 7pin towbar electrics.
Has anyone persuaded a LR dealer to fit one with the Euro single 13 pin socket?
For those who aren't familiar, these connectors are (in my opinion) far superior to the UK twin 7pin.
The were supplied on X5, Range Rovers and some other Euro cars as a standard option, but now seem to have been dropped for the Disco3.
I bought an EU (13 to 7 ) converter at the local car part store and it worsks perfect,
In Norway Torshov Bilrekvisita has it !
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