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Northerdiver1
 


Member Since: 22 Nov 2019
Location: Turriff
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Scotland 2005 Discovery 3 TDV6 SE Manual Indus SilverDiscovery 3
Wheel alignment gone wrong, anyone had this experience

Hi guy, just as thought I’d got all my issues fixed, I took the car down to the garage to get the alignment done and the Garage are saying the can’t align it, when driving forward the front wheels are showing positive values and when reversing the the front are showing negative the switch between positive and negative is about 1.5inch at the top of the wheel, visually you can seen the wheel move, they have checked all wishbone bushes and are solid. This happens on both side at the same time.
The repairs I had carried out were, new wheel bearing, new inner and outer tie rods, new front air suspension/shocks and new Ride height sensors,(air suspension not recalibrated but measurements of heights were good).


I was driving the car down to the garage at about 50-60 and couldn’t feel anything unusual, unless I hit a pot hole the steering was a bit floaty.

Anyone heard or seen this issue before?
  
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nigethecat
 


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Ukraine 2016 Discovery 4 3.0 SDV6 Commercial XS Auto Corris GreyDiscovery 4

Did they put the car in "tight tolerance mode"?
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aja4x4
 


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United Kingdom 2005 Discovery 3 TDV6 SE Auto Zambezi SilverDiscovery 3

Wheels cannot move that much without something being wrong.
 Andrew

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Northerdiver1
 


Member Since: 22 Nov 2019
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Scotland 2005 Discovery 3 TDV6 SE Manual Indus SilverDiscovery 3

Don’t know if they were in tight tolerance mode, they’ve done the car before with no issues and with this type variance I thought I’d have felt something, they said they’ve never seen anything like it before they’re going to have a look at it over the next few days, just wondering if there’s anything specific that may be causing it, the vehicle was fitted with Polyurethane bushes just last year. Would upper or lower ball joints allow for this much flex?
  
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ronald.soak
 


Member Since: 29 Apr 2008
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England 2005 Discovery 3 TDV6 S Manual Chawton WhiteDiscovery 3

Might be worth checking that the wheels are completely flat on the hubs. I have experience of torquing up wheel nuts only to find that the wheel was not flat on the hub. Ran fine at low speed but became apparent with wheel noise after a 50 mph run.
  
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Hardware
 


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United Kingdom 2011 Discovery 4 3.0 SDV6 XS Auto Sumatra BlackDiscovery 4

nigethecat wrote:
Did they put the car in "tight tolerance mode"?


I'm fairly sure that even "Tight Tolerance" doesn't control the wheels moving as described !
  
Post #22494762nd Sep 2021 7:02 pm
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Flack
 


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England 2007 Discovery 3 TDV6 XS Auto Stornoway GreyDiscovery 3

There has got to be something wrong with either upper and lower ball joints, or the upper and lower bushes to move that much.

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Post #22494832nd Sep 2021 8:24 pm
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Farmer Chalk
 


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England 2008 Discovery 3 TDV6 HSE Auto Tangiers OrangeDiscovery 3

My money is those rear arm bushes.. Shocked
  
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aja4x4
 


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United Kingdom 2005 Discovery 3 TDV6 SE Auto Zambezi SilverDiscovery 3

It could also be a snapped bolt
 Andrew

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Post #22494942nd Sep 2021 9:13 pm
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Hardware
 


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United Kingdom 2011 Discovery 4 3.0 SDV6 XS Auto Sumatra BlackDiscovery 4

Fronts and both wheels? Very odd. Wrong parts fitted or some serious wear?
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M3DPO
 


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England 2014 Discovery 4 3.0 SDV6 HSE Lux Auto Corris GreyDiscovery 4

Wheel nuts not torqued up Whistle
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United Kingdom 2011 Discovery 4 3.0 SDV6 XS Auto Sumatra BlackDiscovery 4

you'd kind of hope the bods doing the alignment would have clocked that ?
  
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Trailered Movements
 


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United Kingdom 2011 Discovery 4 3.0 SDV6 Commercial Auto Sumatra BlackDiscovery 4

It took 4 attempts to find out why my steering wheel kept going out of centre, turned out to be broken sub-frame adjusting bolts. They had snapped in the frame so was not immediately apparent, but a particular fitter had had the problem before.

Dave
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greg00
 


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Switzerland 2005 LR3 4.4 V8 SE Auto Java BlackLR3

Dave, could you share more information about this subframe bolts and where it is located?
My steering wheel still keeps going out of center after 3rd alignment.
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United Kingdom 2011 Discovery 4 3.0 SDV6 Commercial Auto Sumatra BlackDiscovery 4

It was the lower suspension arm adjusting bolts, they have a fixed essentric washer at one end.

We agreed that having the thread end pointing forward, contributed to corrosion of the thread which resulted in them breaking when they were being adjusted.

We therefore put the new ones in 'the wrong way round' to hopefully reduce the possibility of the problem recurring.

Dave
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