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Shealesy
 


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Scotland 2005 Discovery 3 TDV6 HSE Manual Java BlackDiscovery 3
Warning bing - no faults!

Hi all! First post of my own here (after barging in on another thread a few weeks ago…)

I have a D3 HSE, MY05 manual with 161k on the clock which has a warning bing that is driving me up the wall! Big Cry
I’ve only had the car a couple of months and, aside from a leaky washer bottle, it otherwise seems solid.

The Disco had an EGR delete under a previous owner (actually twice 2 years apart by the invoice mountain I’ve got…) and I finished it off by removing the butterfly valve a few days ago. What a difference that made! Suddenly it’s got some go below 2k rpm! This obviously comes up in a scan as permanent faults, which I duly ignore Thumbs Up

Back to the bing.

This bing starts 8-10 miles into any journey, once a good operating temperature has been achieved, and typically happens as the revs drop on a gear change.It also happens if I’m slowing down and the revs drop. It’s not at a particular engine speed (as it was when I commented elsewhere) but is always below 1750rpm, and sometimes as low as idle. If I’m in “the bing zone” at a chosen cruising speed the only way to silence it is to change down a gear and keep the revs up.

Turning it off and on doesn’t help. If a stop somewhere is short then the bing is there from the restart, but if it’s a long trip round Tesco I’ll get a few minutes of peace before the temperature is achieved and the bing returns.

I thought at first it was an injector balance issue, as one was riding high (1300ish) and another low (700ish) but having been for a drive with a passenger watching the balance numbers, they actually get better when idling at operating temperature (1150/800ish with the other 4x all being around 900).
Reading out the fuel pressure as we drove it sounded quite normal too, no sudden drops or spikes showed up, though the refresh isn’t exactly instantaneous.

In my short ownership it hasn’t recorded a single power train fault (besides EGR) and the info centre has only warned me of an intermittent suspension fault (which I can only recreate on a certain road at a certain speed). There was a P02A3-00 “cylinder 3 balance - fuel trim at minimum limit” when i first scanned it, but this has never returned.

It also has a diesel leak, a small stain on the gravel overnight, that runs off the filter and surroundings. It’s quite wet with diesel around the fuel cooler but I can’t see where it’s coming down from. Cleaned around the offside injectors, nothing new coming from there on the short runs I’ve done recently.

I have changed the fuel filter (to try and cure the leak), air filter, I will probably do oil and filter this afternoon, cleaned the MAP (wasn’t bad), removed the butterfly valve and various other little bits to no avail.

I was hoping to take it on Sunday to Lincoln and back (from near Wick…) to collect the grandparents and the approximate metric ton of stuff that grandparents travel with but now I’m unsure. I don’t fancy a holy piston if it turns out to be an injector! I may have to take the Vauxhall and more than double the mpg…. At the sacrifice of comfort and boot space!

Has anyone else had a mystery bing with similar symptoms? I’ve been scratching my head and leafing through these forums for weeks now to no end. Lots of solutions to other things (butterfly etc) which has been brilliant, but nothing definitive on my mystery bing.

Thank you all Bow down
 

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Post #224639513th Aug 2021 12:40 pm
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What code reader are you using?
  
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As Sea raider says what are you using to read the fault codes, a generic code reader will only read generic codes a LR specific reader will be able to read codes from all the systems in the car.
You may also need to check the live values
 Andrew

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Shealesy
 


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It’s an Autel MaxiAP200, seems magic so far. Have checked and calibrated suspension and found out why my wing mirror doesn’t fold!

Passenger was reading the live values from the power train as we knocked around the countryside.
  
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Is the outside temperature reading correctly on the dash ?
Not below 5C

Have you fixed the washer bottle?
  
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Shealesy
 


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Yup, seems to be in the ball park about 15c

Yes, new washer bottle in. Was one of the first jobs as it held about 50ml of liquid Laughing it looked like a previous had thrown a screw in through it to hold the corner of the bumper on….
  
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No message on the dash when it pings? Sure its not a faulty seat belt sensor or something? Caught me out a couple of times when I've had something on the passenger seat. It pings but dosnt always flash the seat belt light.
  
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Shealesy
 


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Pretty sure. With a boot this size, I don’t need to keep anything on the seat Laughing I assume I can see that in live data somewhere so I’ll have a look next time I go out in it.

It’s the only happening when it’s hot that gets me. If it only happened when cold, I’d happily drive through it, there’s no such thing as a short journey up here. Even the nearest shop for milk gets it right up to temperature!
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have you read the gearbox fault codes
  
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Shealesy
 


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The gearbox is (I think) the only module the Autel skips past. I just figured it’s because it was a manual it didn’t have one, as there can’t be much to go wrong. Except that XY sensor. Gear selection displays just fine on the dash.
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Ok. Not gearbox then
  
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Shealesy
 


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I don’t think so. I think it has its own minor issue, reverse is a little stiff to slide over into which I believe is a circlip or some sort of detent pin in the side but it’s not impossible so I can deal with that another time. I just never park in spaces that I can’t get out of forwards Mr. Green
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I initially thought it sounds like a seat belt audible warning issue. As a free fix.. You could do the plug in out 10times to rule it out as a silly?
Does it do anything if you leave it running and not in the car for any length of time.
Rich
  
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How old is the oil in the gearbox and its level? May need an oil and filter change.
  
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Injector balance can only be read at tick-over, 1000 per injector is perfect but never achieved, anything between 800 and 1250 is acceptable. The injector reading low is doing so to balance the other reading slightly high, nothing to worry about.
If there are no faults showing and nothing on the dash I can’t see why you can’t use the car normally, just a nuisance till you find what’s causing it, does it happen at the same mph?
Could the clue be the new washer bottle?- there is a warning when it is low on water! and it will not be listed as a fault.
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