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al cope
 


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towing with a Tesla

For the first time last week, I saw a Tesla model X towing a "normal" caravan (single axle Lunar I think, so possibly somewhere in the 12-1300Kg range).

Given the torque from electric motors, the battery weght, and 4 wheel drive an electric car ought to make a great towcar, but I wondered what his real range was when towing.

Al
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These chaps tried it...

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Post #216982325th Aug 2020 7:31 am
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gstuart
 


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Hiya

Looks around they can only get a 100 mile range

https://insideevs.com/news/425172/video-te...er-towing/

Cost of the tow bar is eye watering @ £970

https://electrek.co/2019/05/08/tesla-model...i%20mount.

https://shop.tesla.com/product/model-x-tow-package

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Description
Equip your Model X with a high-strength steel tow bar and removable 2” hitch receiver capable of towing up to 5,000 pounds on 20” wheels or 3,500 pounds on 22” wheels. Tow Mode actively monitors trailer sway and adjusts wheel braking and speed. Please note all new Model X vehicles come standard with this tow package.
Includes:
1 x high strength steel tow bar
1 x removable 2” hitch receiver
1 x 7 pin trailer electronics harness
1 x tow mode software package


Ball not included.
Price includes shipping and installation and ships to your preferred Service Center.
Note: Customers with vehicles equipped with a trailer hitch & without Tow Mode enabled can upgrade to the full tow package by contacting their Service Center for information and availability.

Wonder how much the software update is plus see it doesn’t even include the tow ball

Plus can u imagine having to stop at several motorway services if u have kids in tow, oh what fun Laughing
   
Post #216982425th Aug 2020 7:35 am
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al cope
 


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thats a big trailer, over 2000Kg, and a decent hill climb. Sounds like on our motorways with a lighter trailer 150miles could well be on.

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Gone - MY18 D5 HSE - Corris on 22's with Black Pack
Now gone - MY16 D4 SE Tech, Loire Blue, Almond Leather, Privacy, plus some other goodies.
Old - MY12 D4 SDV6 XS Auto - Ipanema Sand with Almond Leather - Plus other niceties, and D4.com sticker
Older - D3 TDV6 XS Auto - Lugano Teal with Almond Leather, 20" Stormers, Shiny Tailpipes, DVD/TV - and obligatory D3 sticker
Ancient - D3 TDV6 S - Tonga with Ebony, 20" Stormers, satnav & DVD 
 
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Gareth
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How the hell would you get on a supercharger with a caravan on the back? You’d have to unhitch it.
  
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Duc750
 


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Regarding cost - thats about bang on for a new vehicle these days somewhere between £700 and £1K seems to be the going rate for a Land Rover factory fit tow bar
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NoDo$h
 


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Yup, same for Audi and Volvo.
 I know it's not considered "kind" to say no these days, but no. Just no, ok? And if it's not ok, still no.  
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gstuart
 


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See some of the u tube videos regarding supercharging say it costs around 24p per KW which they say is an average around £12.00 per 80% charge

Also heard that the supercharging feature can be turned off by tesla if u work on it urself plus ie fit second hand parts , I also believe u can’t buy any parts direct from tesla , think that was the general consensus but of course don’t know if that’s true or not
   
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Duc750
 


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The whole BEV thing is like a cult at the moment - propogated by the manufacturers but the forums are by far the worst place. There's a core of owners so "drunk" on the concept that they are saving the world that they cannot see the reality of ownership/infrastructure etc. yet.
I'm eagerly waiting for 5 years time when my Tesla owning mate is due to bury the defunct battery from his model S in his back garden to run his house. I've even offered to lend him a spade so he can follow the Tesla marketing pitch to the letter.
 05 D3 V8 HSE, LR Passion tree bars, wildbear compressor guard, LRP switch panel, ARB rear locker + compressor, Trigger 6 shooter electrical system
12 RRS SDV6 HSE (Hers) - Gone and replaced with an I Pace - I can tell you now EV is not the future yet
Metalian Camper trailer 
 
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gstuart
 


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Plus I hope they’ve all checked that the charging points are from green energy suppliers Whistle
   
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I think I paid £950’ish for my electric deployable tow bar on my new 2020 Evoque.
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Duc750
 


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Oooh now electrically deployable - thats 10 minutes of aircon or 4 miles range in a Tesla
 05 D3 V8 HSE, LR Passion tree bars, wildbear compressor guard, LRP switch panel, ARB rear locker + compressor, Trigger 6 shooter electrical system
12 RRS SDV6 HSE (Hers) - Gone and replaced with an I Pace - I can tell you now EV is not the future yet
Metalian Camper trailer 
 
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adam
 


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Duc750 wrote:
The whole BEV thing is like a cult at the moment - propogated by the manufacturers but the forums are by far the worst place. There's a core of owners so "drunk" on the concept that they are saving the world that they cannot see the reality of ownership/infrastructure etc. yet.
I'm eagerly waiting for 5 years time when my Tesla owning mate is due to bury the defunct battery from his model S in his back garden to run his house. I've even offered to lend him a spade so he can follow the Tesla marketing pitch to the letter.


Isn’t a ‘million mile’ battery available in the very near future or is that more marketing cr*p?
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Duc750
 


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Well the Tesla batteries will already do a million miles but as they get older its the intervals between charges that reduces. The original Marketing BS was an 85KW battery would degrade 10% over a reasonable 10 year life meaning it would be perfectly serviceable to run your hous for a week when buried in your back garden
 05 D3 V8 HSE, LR Passion tree bars, wildbear compressor guard, LRP switch panel, ARB rear locker + compressor, Trigger 6 shooter electrical system
12 RRS SDV6 HSE (Hers) - Gone and replaced with an I Pace - I can tell you now EV is not the future yet
Metalian Camper trailer 
 
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Pelyma
  


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I’ve just been looking at a Taycan very nice 8)



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