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tayaste
 


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United Kingdom 2008 Discovery 3 TDV6 HSE Auto Stornoway GreyDiscovery 3

Yep, that's me. I'm normally the one who comes third in a duel. Laughing
  
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SteveyB
 


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Scotland 2007 Discovery 3 TDV6 HSE Auto Stornoway GreyDiscovery 3
Faultmate FCR

I just took delivery of a Faultmate FCR, first impressions are it's a great piece of quality kit and very simple to use After plugging it in it threw up a few fault codes which have accumulated over time which I have now cleared. I will run another check in the next couple of days to see if any new faults are showing. Then I guess it's all about working out which ones are relevant and need further investigation and which ones are just random faults triggers. I'm not a DIY mechanicc so don't need any of the enhancement functions other diagnostic devices may have. It's all about getting to know my Disco a litle better and what is normal and what needs attention and on the basis "knowledge is power" hopefully help me in any conversations when it comes to maintenance and repairs. Very Happy
  
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Yeti305
 


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Italy 2007 Discovery 3 TDV6 S Auto Unknown ColourDiscovery 3

Hello eveyone!

Just got my first D3, 2007 S model ( Embarassed )

Coming from a D2, I own a Nanocom Evolution.

The question is:

Is it worth upgrading the Nanocom Evo, or should I buy a IIDTool?

Cost is not an issue, I'm just wondering if the IIDTool is better than the NanoEvo

Thanks for your help!
  
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Lost for Words
 


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IID BT. Thumbs Up

I have both now and the Nanocom hasn't been used since the IID arrived. Wink
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Yeti305
 


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IID BT will be then!

Thanks for the quick reply!
  
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Lost for Words wrote:
IID BT. Thumbs Up


As LfW says, now what was the question? Whistle Whistle
   
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Yeti305 wrote:

Is it worth upgrading the Nanocom Evo, or should I buy a IIDTool?


As a nanocom evo owner I would recommend the iid tool. The evo is fine but clunky, there are better solutions now nthat technology has moved on.
  
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Sean North
 


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New DIII 06 owner here - have read entire thread hoping to be able to form a postive conclusion.

Other than the Nancom being "clunky" is a slightly more technical reason why I should get another tool, as opposed to just buying the £160 unlock code for my existing Nanocom ?

Has anyone done an analysis of what tool does what ? Is there anything essential that the Nanocom doesn't do ?

Ta.
  
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The Icarsoft CR looks an interesting tool, and is very well priced.

As I have 3 LR's a VW and a Ford on the driveway I am attracted to it as it is not locked to one vehicle and covers various makes and models.

Has anyone used one?

Jim
  
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Lost for Words
 


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Sean North wrote:
New DIII 06 owner here - have read entire thread hoping to be able to form a postive conclusion.

Other than the Nancom being "clunky" is a slightly more technical reason why I should get another tool, as opposed to just buying the £160 unlock code for my existing Nanocom ?

Has anyone done an analysis of what tool does what ? Is there anything essential that the Nanocom doesn't do ?

Ta.


A few things to consider that favour the IID BT -

> You can view, save and email fault codes and live value logs at the touch of a button - this saves a lot of time and makes uploading them to to forum much easier.

> Much greater range of live values.

> Much more user friendly ECU flashing and CCF editing interface with automatic file selection. No transfering files via a PC.

> Smaller and wireless so very convenient.

> As you note, less clunky and easier to use - faster and smoother running. Even the firmware update is much more streamlined. I can't speak for exactly how it stands now, since I haven't flashed with the NC since some relevant updates were introduced, but when I initially flashed the Instrument pack, it took the NC about 10 minutes, with the IID it takes more like 1 minute - and the longer it takes, the greater the opportunity for failure so...

Above all, I have good reason to believe the Nanocom was responsible for corrupting by CCF, and since then, I no longer entrust any flashing to it at all...

There are also different licensing arrangements that may be relevant - i.e. the Nanocom covers all vehicles of a particular type, the IID is VIN locked for enhanced functions but standard functions are available on all covered vehicles.

As I see it, what the Nancom does have in its favour is being diminished further with each update to the IID.

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Freelander 2 2007 HSE Manual Tambora Flame
Previous: FL2 56 reg SE Manual Black (written off Sad )
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Several Discovery 300 TDis
 
 
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Whilst it was with considerable disappointment that BBS denied the issues with the Nanocom for so long and chose to blame the customer instead, they have recently improved the firmware that should reduce the chances of a catastrophic events during flashing or CCF edits.

Credit is also due to the excellent support provided by GAP in helping to resolve Nanocom problems, despite it being a competitor's product. Already known for their legendary customer support they expanded this to help people who were not actually customers - an exceptional service.

I do tend to agree with the points raised by LfW above.

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Lost for Words
 


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Whilst it was with considerable disappointment that BBS denied the issues with the Nanocom for so long and chose to blame the customer instead, they have recently improved the firmware that should reduce the chances of a catastrophic events during flashing or CCF edits.


So they've improved the core reliabilty now then? I know they introduced recovery methods, but of course, prevention is better than a cure.
 Current: Discovery 3 06MY (55 reg) HSE Auto Zambezi Silver Zambezi Silver Allisport Fast Road Intercooler, V8 Brakes, Silicone IC Hoses, EGRs Blanked, Remapped, De-Cat pipe, FBHIC
Freelander 2 2007 HSE Manual Tambora Flame
Previous: FL2 56 reg SE Manual Black (written off Sad )
Disco 3 06 reg B7S Manual Rimini Red Rimini Red
Disco 2 TD5 Y reg ES Manual Blue - Chipped Very Happy
Several Discovery 300 TDis
 
 
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I know nothing of the core reliability, only of the recovery methods.
 Land Rover - Turning Drivers into Mechanics Since 1948

Battery & Quiescent Current Drain Testing

Diagnostics for:
Defender, FL2, D3, D4, Evoque, RRS & FFRR
A not-for-profit enterprise


 
 
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Lost for Words
 


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Ahh, right. Thumbs Up
 Current: Discovery 3 06MY (55 reg) HSE Auto Zambezi Silver Zambezi Silver Allisport Fast Road Intercooler, V8 Brakes, Silicone IC Hoses, EGRs Blanked, Remapped, De-Cat pipe, FBHIC
Freelander 2 2007 HSE Manual Tambora Flame
Previous: FL2 56 reg SE Manual Black (written off Sad )
Disco 3 06 reg B7S Manual Rimini Red Rimini Red
Disco 2 TD5 Y reg ES Manual Blue - Chipped Very Happy
Several Discovery 300 TDis
 
 
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Sean North
 


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Interesting, thanks folks.

I have to admit that I can't really fault my Nanocom (that'll be the kiss of death for it) - its done everything I needed to bring a £200 DII back to life last year - lots of electrical issues that a dealer just waved the white flag at.

I'm happy to be convinced that I need another tool, but as I simply want to keep my DIII standard, I'm pondering if I really need those few extras mentioned - I can cope with it being slightly slower, I hope I don't need to flash ECU's or edit CCFs - being able to see and export more live data would be good, but not compelling.

More pondering required.
  
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