Member Since: 10 Jan 2011
Location: Adelaide
Posts: 4
Tailgate wont open - lock/unlock buttons work - switch repla
Hi, I have a variation on the tailgate wont open issue.
1. Tailgate would not open using the rubber switch on the handle (no noise at all)
2. Pressing the Lock Unlock buttons releases the tailgate, so actuator is good
3. I suspected the handle switch which I have replaced and connected to the old wires in the handle
4. Nothing has changed and still the tailgate wont unlatch (no noise)
Any ideas where I should look next?
Thanks
Martin
One Tree Hill, South Australia
D3 2.7 and D4 3.0
6th Sep 2016 5:29 am
LeighW D3 Decade
Member Since: 31 Jan 2006
Location: Brisbane, AUS
Posts: 920
Hi yattalunga - as you have replaced the handle switch, try to get a voltage reading from the old wires. Maybe the problem is further away than at the switch itself. Especially as you said that the pressing of Lock/Unlock combination activates the actuator and the tailgate is able to be opened.
Failing that I don't have any more suggestions other than I doused my switch with Lanotec after I experienced some moisture inside under the rubber seal about 4 years ago. No problems since.
HTH, Leigh
Edit: corrected spelling of LanotecLeighW
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6th Sep 2016 5:47 am
kerry_daniel
Member Since: 30 Oct 2016
Location: Sydney
Posts: 3
Re: Tailgate wont open - lock/unlock buttons work - switch repla
yattalunga wrote:
Hi, I have a variation on the tailgate wont open issue.
1. Tailgate would not open using the rubber switch on the handle (no noise at all)
2. Pressing the Lock Unlock buttons releases the tailgate, so actuator is good
3. I suspected the handle switch which I have replaced and connected to the old wires in the handle
4. Nothing has changed and still the tailgate wont unlatch (no noise)
Any ideas where I should look next?
Thanks
Martin
One Tree Hill, South Australia
D3 2.7 and D4 3.0
Did you get this sorted? I have the same issue. Replaced the actuator and switch but nothing.
30th Oct 2016 11:17 pm
Disgoeshere
Member Since: 06 Dec 2014
Location: North East
Posts: 278
Faulty micro switch faulty loom ?some info on here that may help
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31st Oct 2016 8:48 am
kerry_daniel
Member Since: 30 Oct 2016
Location: Sydney
Posts: 3
I don't think that's my issue. I have new actuator, new switch, voltage coming in and out at switch loom, I can see voltage change when switch engaged, picture on dash/warning thinks tailgate is open, no voltage reading at actuator when switch engaged. I checked what grounds I could find but everything seems fine, did a battery reset (disconnecting and wiring across ground and positive wire). My worry is its relay related and that is beyond my skills. Might need a trip to the dealer.
31st Oct 2016 9:16 pm
yattalunga
Member Since: 10 Jan 2011
Location: Adelaide
Posts: 4
Re: Tailgate wont open - lock/unlock buttons work - switch repla
kerry_daniel wrote:
yattalunga wrote:
Hi, I have a variation on the tailgate wont open issue.
1. Tailgate would not open using the rubber switch on the handle (no noise at all)
2. Pressing the Lock Unlock buttons releases the tailgate, so actuator is good
3. I suspected the handle switch which I have replaced and connected to the old wires in the handle
4. Nothing has changed and still the tailgate wont unlatch (no noise)
Any ideas where I should look next?
Thanks
Martin
One Tree Hill, South Australia
D3 2.7 and D4 3.0
Did you get this sorted? I have the same issue. Replaced the actuator and switch but nothing.
Hi kerry_daniel. Still trying to track the loom back from the switch. Not much infirnation about on the location of each connector.
1st Nov 2016 11:24 am
kerry_daniel
Member Since: 30 Oct 2016
Location: Sydney
Posts: 3
I have started checking the wiring and tracing the route it takes. I can see voltage coming in to the handle/switch for the uppertailgaterelease, I can monitor the switch opening and closing (actuator doesn't respond), no voltage at the actuator can be seen (I have run power across it and it works). One thing that confuses me is the dash warning for open tailgate comes on when pulling the handle but the computer will recognise that it isn't and the light will go off after a while. The switch in the lower tailgate is new and when I unplug it the dash light will not go out after a while.
Back at the fuse panel I swapped relay 2 and relay 4 around given the lower tailgate works fine, no change in status back at the actuator.
I am guessing my next step is to start to look at continuity and voltage going in to the CJB from the uppertailgate switch and where it enters the relay.
I am also seeing chatter online about the driver side door lock playing a role in this circuit. That lock was replaced a few months ago and it seems to operate normally and the computer recognises when its open or closed so I don't know if there is a ground issue in there.
This will keep me busy while I wait form my service appointment.
Any thoughts?
Update 24/01/17 - thought I'd update this following the outcome. The tailgate now opens, no idea why it started working. Replaced all components and switches at the back, traced all wires, messed around with all relays, reset batteries, cursed a lot, gave up on it, just for added pleasure my compressor then died, took it in to get replaced, disco came back and tailgate worked. Land Rover said they didn't touch it. Cursed some more.
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2nd Nov 2016 8:44 pm
yattalunga
Member Since: 10 Jan 2011
Location: Adelaide
Posts: 4
Hi,
I would try running a wire direct from a good ground to the live wire on the switch for a moment to check that it is not a problem with the ground off the tailgate switch or do a continuity test on the switch ground
2nd Nov 2016 8:53 pm
Marklandy3tdv6
Member Since: 09 Jan 2021
Location: Letchworth Garden City
Posts: 2
Hi everyone I have a land-rover discovery 3 tdv6 2009 I am having trouble with my tailgate I have changed the actuator on the lower door and the hatch opens with the key but the upper hatch doesn't open off the switch I have changed the switch and still no power to it. So now I have brought another tailgate handle and still not working.. Please does anyone have any idea how to fix this please. Thanks
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9th Jan 2021 4:46 pm
Marklandy3tdv6
Member Since: 09 Jan 2021
Location: Letchworth Garden City
Posts: 2
Hi all I am going to check the wires for power today on the uppertailgate switch hopefully I find something I've been trying to watch videos all night but all I seem to find is how to fix lower hatch but I have already changed the actuator on that..
10th Jan 2021 8:59 am
Wireless Will
Member Since: 12 Mar 2017
Location: West Sussex
Posts: 42
Interesting- I have the same problem. Last year replaced actuator and switch all worked fine until last week. Just tried another new switch and no joy. Tailgate still opens on double buttons pushed together on dash and did work on key third button until it unprogrammed itself
Any other ideas welcome
27th Jan 2021 4:29 pm
lordturpin
Member Since: 11 Jun 2009
Location: Herts
Posts: 42
For what its worth - mine has the same rear uppertailgate stopped working issue, it only worked when pushing the 2 buttons on the dashboard.... i bought a replacement switch/actuator for £20 but it still didnt work.
I then took it to the dealer that had it for a few days and traced it to a wire issue near driver footwell, however they say the replacement actuator i bought still isnt working but are confident they think another one will. Hope to find out in a few days.
29th Jan 2021 4:34 pm
Wireless Will
Member Since: 12 Mar 2017
Location: West Sussex
Posts: 42
Did you get your issue resolved? If so what was the fault?
13th Feb 2021 4:17 pm
Leon
Member Since: 26 Apr 2014
Location: Leamington Spa
Posts: 434
Hi all,
I have same fault.
Have replaced switch in the handle and still the same fault.
Can anybody offer any advice on where to start looking.
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