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Rob H
 


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Something's still running when I turn off the engine!

Hi,

I just noticed recently that when I turn the engine off and take the key out, I can still hear something running. This goes on for 2 or 3 minutes and then silence.

It sound like an electric motor. If it was the summer, I would assume that it is the fan on the radiator (assuming that there is an electric fan there).

But here I am in North East Scotland with sub zero temperatures. Could it be to do with the air con? I keep this on all the time all year, normally on the econ setting?

The car is approaching the end of it's 3 year warranty, so I am getting a bit nervous about things going wrong, although I do have an extension to July 2008.

Any advice gratefully received.

Cheers, Rob
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Gareth
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FBH = Fuel Burning Heater Thumbs Up

Its normal, just shutting itself down.
  
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Fuel burning heater???
  
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Rob H
 


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Thanks Gareth, you guys are a godsend.

Rob
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Or in your case, FBH = Freezing Bloody House Rolling with laughter Rolling with laughter Rolling with laughter Rolling with laughter Rolling with laughter
  
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Big Cry Big Cry Big Cry
  
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Rob H
 


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You're right there!
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DSL
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Where U based Rob H???
  
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Rob H
 


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Near Montrose, commute to Aberdeen.
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At least U have the N Sea to keep you warm!!! Wink
  
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Rob H
 


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Not so sure about that DSL - where are you based, on the top of a mountain, like our good friend Mr. Clarkson in that Top Gear challenge?
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I wonder....The thing (FBH), shouldn't it stop running when the coolant reaches its normal working temperature?
  
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OK, if the air temp is 5 degrees or below, and the coolant temp is less than 75 degrees, the Webasto fuel burning heater Known as an FBH, will fire up when the engine is started.

It makes a faint roaring noise when it fires up, and emits deisel fumes and smoke from the small pipe at the front edge of the front left wheel arch. When you first see this it is easy to think that something is wrong, but it is perfectly normal.

It also sometimes makes smells in the cabin if the fumes get to the aircon - there is a TSB to stop this happening! and it shoud have been done on the enhancement program.

The heater will continue to run for a couple of minutes after shutdown, again nothing to be alarmed about.

The heater is in the front left hand corner of the engine bay, behind the headlamp. It looks like a black and silver sandwich box and has a small exhaust and silencer.

Its function is to help the engine warm up quicker on cold mornings, and to maintain coolant temp when the weather is very cold. It is very effective and the warm up on a frosty morning is very quick indeed.

The general effects of cold weather (thicker oils etc) and the heater will shave a bit off your fuel consumption. More short journeys equal even more fuel used. You cannot disable the heater to save fuel, in fact it saves more fuel than it uses by getting the engine up to operating temperature, and keeping it there.

In the early days, we were blessed with the ability to pre program an auto start on the FBH at a preset time, it was in the settings menu, but it never worked properly and Land Rover never intended it to be there, so the function is now removed from early vehicles with the enhancement update.
  
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Gareth wrote:

In the early days, we were blessed with the ability to pre program an auto start on the FBH at a preset time, it was in the settings menu, but it never worked properly and Land Rover never intended it to be there, so the function is now removed from early vehicles with the enhancement update.


You HAD to go and mention that again Thud

Oh and the running post engine off is just to burn up the fuel in the system to make it safe.

Also... weird to see smoke emitting from around the D3 when its submerged in water. Shocked
  
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Rob H wrote:
Near Montrose, commute to Aberdeen.

Nice to see another 'local' Thumbs Up

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