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astonbuilder
 


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maps and distance

So how does this work then.

Dakar in Senegal to Bandarbeyla in Somalia is 4609 miles 'as the crow flies'

St Petersburgh to Oglongi, both in Russia is 3698 miles 'as the crow flies'

Data taken from here; https://www.freemaptools.com/how-far-is-it-between.htm (and their visual shows earth curvature effect, etc.)

Drawn on a conventional, and accepted, picture of the earth looks like this; so why is the shorter distance line about 2/3rd longer than the longer distance, what should a 2D map really 'look like'?


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Because that is a Mercator projection

https://futuremaps.com/blogs/news/top-10-world-map-projections
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Mercator projection effect
  
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Well, you learn (but still don’t quite understand Embarassed ) something new every day!

I was not expecting such a complicated answer when I read up ‘Mercator projection’
  
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Map (big) vs real (small):



The closer to the equator, the more accurate the size on the map as shown by this animation.

The only way to accurately map a sphere is to map it on to a sphere.
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think of a running track, and the athletes all lining up a the start, they are staggered to allow for the curve of the track meaning they all run the same distance. If they started in a straight line then the runner on the inside lane would run less distance than the runner in the outside lane.

or maybe think of it as the wheels of your D4/FFRR going round a corner. Wheels and axles are fixed but the curve of the bend is also fixed, so the outer wheel will rotate further/more than the inner wheel.

thankfully the earth doesnt suffer from diff wind up Laughing
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I get it all, just can't believe I'm this old before I realised maps are 'distorted', I blame my dad for not letting me continue geography as a GSCE option as it was a 'useless subject'.....
  
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I think much of the stuff taught under the heading "geography" is human geography rather than the physical nature of the world. Certainly, talking to friends who took geography at O level / GCSE that appears to be the case. You might have taken the course and still not known about this issue. Thumbs Up
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Rogb....thanks i get it now....always amazes me how they map space
  
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