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Spare Wheel Plastic Valance Attachment
The plastic valance RRY500010 in front of the spare wheel which is attached to two stays at the edges between which is attached by two bolts was loose on my Discovery 3 causing it to rattle when going over a rough road service.
I have replaced the two pop rivets attaching the valance to the stays. However, on the place on the plastic valance were one of bolts should go through it there is some damage which means that the hole is no longer a hole but a notch which extends to the edge of the plastic valance. I believe this can be fixed by replacing the bolt & nut which are badly corroded and fitting a new bolt/nut with a larger washer to clamp the valance at this point.
On searching for which nuts and bolts are required I see that rather than bolts there is a stud plate RRY500120 with I assume the two studs of which are threaded (is this the correct assumption?) but there is no mention of what bolts are required.
Can anyone give and advise on replacing the stud plate and the size of bolts required (I assume this should be a simple task but that may not be the case).
13th Aug 2020 12:59 am
PROFSR G
Member Since: 06 Mar 2017
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Yes, it is a simple task and you may be in danger of overthinking it
Even so, I replace the rivets with SS bolts, washers and nyloc's as the pop rivets are less effective on the plastic as it becomes brittle with age. If I remember correctly he studs are m8, or are they m6? Sorry, old age even though I just repaired one 2 days ago.
In any case removal of the bracket from the chassis should be easy and will likely need a refurb anyway!
If you had to, the bracket is easily made DIY, using bolts in place of the studs with basic tools, a drill and a vice. Oversized repair washers will deal with the "notch" in the splash panel.
Or have I overthought it too? yµ (idµ - eAµ) ψ=mψ
13th Aug 2020 2:21 am
aja4x4
Member Since: 14 Apr 2019
Location: Westbury
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My brackets were very rusty so i just made some new ones out of 20x3mm flat bar
13th Aug 2020 6:13 am
Trailered Movements
Member Since: 16 Jan 2020
Location: East/West Sussex Coast Borders
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Sorry to hijack this thread, but as my spare doesn't fit, could this be removed without any later issues?
Dave2011 Discovery 4 Commercial SDV6 (Gone)
2010 RRS TDV8 (Gone)
1980 OBLIC 4.0ltr Range Rover (went a long time ago)
13th Aug 2020 7:57 am
zig
Member Since: 09 Sep 2005
Location: Scotland
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PROFSR G wrote:
Yes, it is a simple task and you may be in danger of overthinking it
Even so, I replace the rivets with SS bolts, washers and nyloc's as the pop rivets are less effective on the plastic as it becomes brittle with age. If I remember correctly he studs are m8, or are they m6? Sorry, old age even though I just repaired one 2 days ago.
In any case removal of the bracket from the chassis should be easy and will likely need a refurb anyway!
If you had to, the bracket is easily made DIY, using bolts in place of the studs with basic tools, a drill and a vice. Oversized repair washers will deal with the "notch" in the splash panel.
Or have I overthought it too?
Thanks PROFSR G for your response seems to be a straight forward task. I have now ordered a stud plate RRY500120 as it was only £2.85 plus VAT plus postage and will see what size of nuts I need when I get it.
Replacing the brackets as aja4x4 suggests is a good idea.
In response to Trailered Movements question about removing the valance, it is there to keep dirt from the road out of area in which the area in which the spare wheel is stored (which it does not do a great job in doing anyway). So if you are accept that you will get more dirt and salt from the road in winter in that area then that is the only downside (however others may have different opinions on this).
13th Aug 2020 9:39 am
Trailered Movements
Member Since: 16 Jan 2020
Location: East/West Sussex Coast Borders
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Thanks zig, wasn't sure if it was for that or shielding the heat from the exhausts.
Dave2011 Discovery 4 Commercial SDV6 (Gone)
2010 RRS TDV8 (Gone)
1980 OBLIC 4.0ltr Range Rover (went a long time ago)
13th Aug 2020 9:50 am
Dondiddy
Member Since: 26 Dec 2019
Location: Hamilton
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The nuts/bolts are M8 flange type but any M8 with a washer would do the same job.
13th Aug 2020 9:55 am
rrhool
Member Since: 28 Aug 2014
Location: Norfolk
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The stays on mine corroded to paper, so I made some in stainless steel.
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I've still got a spare set if any wants?Richard
D3 SE 2007. Triumph 2.5Pi 1973. Ferguson TEA20 1948.
Discovery 2 4.0 ES 2001- Gone
Discovery 1 300Tdi ES '95 - Gone
Range Rover Classic '79 - Gone
13th Aug 2020 10:40 am
zig
Member Since: 09 Sep 2005
Location: Scotland
Posts: 629
Hi rrhool
I notice from your photograph that a pair of cable ties have been used to prevent a crack in your spare wheel valance developing.
15th Aug 2020 12:07 am
Yozza
Member Since: 01 Mar 2020
Location: Stoke-on-Trent
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My brackets are rusted. Can the brackets be bought new or do I have to raid the scrap metal bin?
8th Dec 2020 7:31 pm
rrhool
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Location: Norfolk
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PM me, you can buy my spare stainless steel set for less than that! Richard
D3 SE 2007. Triumph 2.5Pi 1973. Ferguson TEA20 1948.
Discovery 2 4.0 ES 2001- Gone
Discovery 1 300Tdi ES '95 - Gone
Range Rover Classic '79 - Gone
8th Dec 2020 9:01 pm
lkrt1u50
Member Since: 20 Jun 2021
Location: Gone
Posts: 10
Picking this old thread up. Trying to get a replacement valance without re-mortgaging the house. The part number does not appear to be recognised by any of the normal landy suppliers in the UK, can someone point me in the right direction please.
23rd Aug 2021 12:58 pm
rrhool
Member Since: 28 Aug 2014
Location: Norfolk
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Is yours cracked, or damaged beyond repair? Minor cracks can be fixed.Richard
D3 SE 2007. Triumph 2.5Pi 1973. Ferguson TEA20 1948.
Discovery 2 4.0 ES 2001- Gone
Discovery 1 300Tdi ES '95 - Gone
Range Rover Classic '79 - Gone
23rd Aug 2021 1:36 pm
nigethecat
Member Since: 11 Sep 2016
Location: Marnoch
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Use a plastic repair kit and heat gun, will do the job nicely I want to see the sweets before I get into your windowless van... I'm not stupid!
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23rd Aug 2021 2:07 pm
PROFSR G
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