galwaygreen
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jesus only knows how this is going to pan out...guess we will get it 24/7 for the next few weeks
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Moo
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This was 25 years ago. The people and organisation are different now but will be judged by the actions of then. Predictably the baying voices of the Daily Mail, Sky and the right wing for privatising it will be come more vocal. New Defender L663 110 SE (known as Noddy!)
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DG
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I blame David Attenborough  21 year LR veteran > D2 GS 2003 > D3 S 2006 > D3 HSE 2009 > D4 HSE 2013 > D4 HSE 2015 > D5 HSE 2018 > DS HSE R-Dynamic P300e 2021
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| 21st May 2021 8:14 am |
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RRSTDV8
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Boris and his mob will use this as an excuse to try to gut the BBC, I'm sure of that.
The BBC gets things wrong, yes, but it's pretty much the closest thing we have to a neutral news organisation in the UK. The right claim it is left wing, the left claim it is right wing. That tells us that it is somewhere down the middle and we need neutral voices these days of rising nationalism and increasing "them and us".
Diana is being painted by some as a lily white maiden led to the slaughter by Bashir. She could be just as manipulative as any of them. As the Dyson report says, she would probably have done the interview anyway:
Quote:Whatever reservations she may have had about it later,
Princess Diana was pleased with the interview at the time. By early to midAugust 1995 at the latest, she was keen on the idea of a television interview. She
would probably have agreed to be interviewed by any experienced and reputable
reporter in whom she had confidence even without the intervention of Mr Bashir
The BBC messed up by not investigating the initial allegations fully enough. But when Bashir got a signed note from Diana herself saying she'd never seen the forged documents, you can see why the person carrying out the investigation thought the allegations had no substance. That Bashir had manipulated that process too is the fault of Bashir alone really.
I expect to see much baying for blood from certain quarters intent on destroying the BBC. Visiting from rrsport.co.uk
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| 21st May 2021 8:28 am |
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kirkyworld
Member Since: 01 Mar 2016
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RRSTDV8 wrote:Boris and his mob will use this as an excuse to try to gut the BBC, I'm sure of that.
The BBC gets things wrong, yes, but it's pretty much the closest thing we have to a neutral news organisation in the UK. The right claim it is left wing, the left claim it is right wing. That tells us that it is somewhere down the middle and we need neutral voices these days of rising nationalism and increasing "them and us".
Diana is being painted by some as a lily white maiden led to the slaughter by Bashir. She could be just as manipulative as any of them. As the Dyson report says, she would probably have done the interview anyway:
Quote:Whatever reservations she may have had about it later,
Princess Diana was pleased with the interview at the time. By early to midAugust 1995 at the latest, she was keen on the idea of a television interview. She
would probably have agreed to be interviewed by any experienced and reputable
reporter in whom she had confidence even without the intervention of Mr Bashir
The BBC messed up by not investigating the initial allegations fully enough. But when Bashir got a signed note from Diana herself saying she'd never seen the forged documents, you can see why the person carrying out the investigation thought the allegations had no substance. That Bashir had manipulated that process too is the fault of Bashir alone really.
I expect to see much baying for blood from certain quarters intent on destroying the BBC.
There is not one single thing neutral about the BBC at all and hasn't been for years.
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| 21st May 2021 9:22 am |
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DG
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Agree ...in particular, they are a puppet of the current government and stifle all the lying, corruption and BS out of the headlines 21 year LR veteran > D2 GS 2003 > D3 S 2006 > D3 HSE 2009 > D4 HSE 2013 > D4 HSE 2015 > D5 HSE 2018 > DS HSE R-Dynamic P300e 2021
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| 21st May 2021 9:26 am |
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Moo
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Member Since: 13 Aug 2010
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kirkyworld wrote:RRSTDV8 wrote:Boris and his mob will use this as an excuse to try to gut the BBC, I'm sure of that.
The BBC gets things wrong, yes, but it's pretty much the closest thing we have to a neutral news organisation in the UK. The right claim it is left wing, the left claim it is right wing. That tells us that it is somewhere down the middle and we need neutral voices these days of rising nationalism and increasing "them and us".
Diana is being painted by some as a lily white maiden led to the slaughter by Bashir. She could be just as manipulative as any of them. As the Dyson report says, she would probably have done the interview anyway:
Quote:Whatever reservations she may have had about it later,
Princess Diana was pleased with the interview at the time. By early to midAugust 1995 at the latest, she was keen on the idea of a television interview. She
would probably have agreed to be interviewed by any experienced and reputable
reporter in whom she had confidence even without the intervention of Mr Bashir
The BBC messed up by not investigating the initial allegations fully enough. But when Bashir got a signed note from Diana herself saying she'd never seen the forged documents, you can see why the person carrying out the investigation thought the allegations had no substance. That Bashir had manipulated that process too is the fault of Bashir alone really.
I expect to see much baying for blood from certain quarters intent on destroying the BBC.
There is not one single thing neutral about the BBC at all and hasn't been for years.
Just curious as to which neutral source you judge the BBC against to demonstrate its bias? New Defender L663 110 SE (known as Noddy!)
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| 21st May 2021 11:36 am |
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astonbuilder
Member Since: 29 Sep 2006
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Journalist lies to get scoop story, how unique... 
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| 22nd May 2021 5:54 pm |
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Moo
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I don't condone Bashir, but journalists have always lied to get to the story. The Watergate scandal and the MP's expenses expose are both examples of where journalists pushed the boundaries with lies and with the expense story, broke the law. However, if they hadn't, we wouldn't have had the stories, both of which were very much in the publics interest. New Defender L663 110 SE (known as Noddy!)
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| 22nd May 2021 6:32 pm |
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Paul J.
Member Since: 09 Dec 2005
Location: Leafy Cheshire
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How was the Diana interview in the public interest?  An ex-Disco3 / FFRR owner ......
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| 22nd May 2021 7:16 pm |
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Moo
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Member Since: 13 Aug 2010
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Paul J. wrote:How was the Diana interview in the public interest?
 Who said it was? New Defender L663 110 SE (known as Noddy!)
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| 22nd May 2021 9:53 pm |
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Paul J.
Member Since: 09 Dec 2005
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Quote:Journalists have always lied to get to story
Quote:If they hadn’t, we wouldn’t have had the stories …. in the public’s interest.
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