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rukuokami
 


Member Since: 19 Jul 2014
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United Kingdom 2006 Discovery 3 TDV6 S Auto Adriatic BlueDiscovery 3
2008 G4 D3 Engine failure help.

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I purchased a G4 which had been very well looked after with 100k. It drove perfectly until one evening it suddenly sounded like a broken washing machine with metallic grinding. The car was recovered to Mark Smith in Bicester but they have advised it needs a new engine with suspected bearing failure.
They recommended NWS Motor services who have quoted around £6K fitted including new turbo. They now have a 30 day turnaround.
I spoke to them regarding rebuild failure rate and parts used and they answered all my questions so I booked it in but they can't collect for another week.

I have now read this forum and seen the various comments about NWS and the issues of reconditioning the TDV6 and am very concerned I am not doing the right thing but also that I can't seem to find any alternative other than maybe a main dealer.

If there are any NWS customers who have been running their engines for a while and could share their experiences or other advice on how to proceed, I would be grateful.
  
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waterbuoy
 


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Can't comment on NWS from personal experience but you have obviously done your research.

When mine went bang I had a JLR supplied unit fitted for me by Disco-Mikey. IIRC the actual engine was around £4,200 (plus fitting), and it came with a 2 year warranty
 Currently 2009 Disco 3 SE, 2013 MY D4 HSE and 2016 D4 SE
Previously:
TD5 Defender 110 CSW (230k miles)
300TDi Disco 1 (289k)
4 RR Classics (300-350k each, 2 manual, 2 auto)
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NJSS
 


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I'm sorry to hear this.

Are JLR still supplying D3 engines?

You need to talk to Joe @ Oval Autos, Cradley Heath, a site sponsor. They might be able to help, but I believe they are no longer reconditioning 2.7 litre engines, probably because of the difficulty in getting good parts, and lack of cost effectiveness.

Worth reading this thread:-

ttps://www.disco3.co.uk/forum/oval-autos-r...light=oval

Good luck.

NJSS
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2016 Discovery 4 Landmark
2011 Mercedes Benz SL350 (R230)
1973 MG B GT V8 - 3.9L John Eales engine, 5 speed R380 gearbox, since 1975.
1959 MGA roadster - 1.9L Peter Burgess Engine - 5 speed gearbox
Past LRs - Multiple FFRs, Discos & a Series I - some petrol, some diesel,
none Electric or H2 fuel cell - yet.
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Post #216780115th Aug 2020 10:49 am
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stiff
 


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Do not use NWS.
Search on here and other places for the feedback.

As mentioned - Speak to Joe Hodgson at Oval Autos or Tim McKnight at Alltrack4x4 (Malvern). You are probably too far for Mike Park (DiscoMikey on the forum).

The above only fit genuine LR approved engines with 2 year manufacturer warranty.
NWS do not....
 MY2008 D3 - It got me hooked...gone
MY2012 D4 - It kept me hooked...gone
MY2007 D3 - Mid-Life crisis toy continues driving me to bankruptcy...
MY2018 "D5" Si6 - But is it a "true" LR...discuss...but now gone
Back in a D4 with a lot of extras.... 
 
Post #216781315th Aug 2020 11:51 am
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rukuokami
 


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Thankyou for your replies, I will see if I can get in contact with those you have recommended.
  
Post #216781415th Aug 2020 11:58 am
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Moo
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Look at sourcing a good Jag S Type and use it as an engine donor.

Stay clear of NWS.
 New Defender L663 110 SE (known as Noddy!)

Sold Volvo XC90 R-Design (known as Basil)

Sold - D4 HSE (Known as Gerty)

No longer the Old Buses original owner Sad
231,000 miles and counting
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D4 Face lifted
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V8 Front brakes
BAS Remap, Allisport Intercooler and deCat
EGRs blanked
T-Max split charge
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Prospeed ladder
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Post #216782215th Aug 2020 12:40 pm
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Disco_Mikey
 


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Do not use NWS

Being a G4, it probably deserves a genuine LR lump to bring it back to life

That, or, sell it to me Wink
 My D3 Build Thread

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Post #216783515th Aug 2020 1:58 pm
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robpenrose
 


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How much is a G4 worth? I guess it probably warrants a LR engine.
 

Current: D4 HSE
Previous: BMW Z4M Coupe
Previous: Land Rover Defender 90 CSW Td5
Previous: Land Rover Discovery Td5 ES 
 
Post #216784115th Aug 2020 3:02 pm
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NJSS
 


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Clearly it's 2.7 litre.

How difficult to upgrade to V8?

I wonder if this is what DM has in mind ? Whistle

NJSS
 Am I Gammon or Woke ? - I neither know nor care.

2016 Discovery 4 Landmark
2011 Mercedes Benz SL350 (R230)
1973 MG B GT V8 - 3.9L John Eales engine, 5 speed R380 gearbox, since 1975.
1959 MGA roadster - 1.9L Peter Burgess Engine - 5 speed gearbox
Past LRs - Multiple FFRs, Discos & a Series I - some petrol, some diesel,
none Electric or H2 fuel cell - yet.
There are 10 types of people in this world: Those who understand binary, and those who don’t. 
 
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Disco_Mikey
 


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No, couldn't spoil a G4 by making it a V8

Id be looking to restore it, and fit a genuine 2.7 lump back into it Thumbs Up
 My D3 Build Thread

TDV8 Retrofit Build Thread 
 
Post #216785215th Aug 2020 3:58 pm
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DSL
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So resisting using the s***p word. Whistle Whistle

Hope you get it fixed, deffo one that should live on. Thumbs Up
   
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Disco_Mikey
 


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I hear its being saved from NWS (not by me though Laughing )

Thumbs Up
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Post #216788815th Aug 2020 7:57 pm
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darrind
 


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DSL wrote:
So resisting using the s***p word. Whistle Whistle

Hope you get it fixed, deffo one that should live on. Thumbs Up


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