Member Since: 18 Apr 2020
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Struggling with d3
Hi guys
After replacing some suspension parts I have a multitude of lights and faults and now have no idea how to sort em
I'll put the pics on the end of this post but the parts I've replaced are front lower wishbone and front hub both on the same side near side.
The motor is new to me and had a bump before I got it
So looking at the icarsoft codes it's a few issues that keep appearing once I start to drive .
Pics are below any sort of lead on sorting this would be good guys .
Regards baz
I would have thought that the first step would be to clear all the codes & see if they reappear when driven.
I believe that you may need to have the tracking adjusted when in "Tight Tolerance Mode".
Good luck
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2016 Discovery 4 Landmark
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1959 MGA roadster - 1.9L Peter Burgess Engine - 5 speed gearbox
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1st May 2020 4:01 pm
lynalldiscovery
Member Since: 22 Dec 2009
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Is the 4x4 screen activated?
I ask as another guy on here used it to recalibrate his steering angle sensor.
They also have a habit of coming loose (sensor located at the bottom of the steering column) try a search on here.
I also think needing to be in tight tolerance mode for alignment is now outdated info?
1st May 2020 4:08 pm
Bazross
Member Since: 18 Apr 2020
Location: lans
Posts: 141
Hi guys
Yes these are the codes that come back after clearing I drive a short distance and they bring up one by one .
So please forgive me being so clueless on this but it must be in some computer mode or hooked into a diagnostics to set the tracking ?.
Also I have noticed that the height sensors are a bit different to each other some are -8mm some are 15 mm however my cheap machine cannot reset or calibrate the suspension.
Regards Baz
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1st May 2020 5:04 pm
Bazross
Member Since: 18 Apr 2020
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NJSS wrote:
I would have thought that the first step would be to clear all the codes & see if they reappear when driven.
I believe that you may need to have the tracking adjusted when in "Tight Tolerance Mode".
Good luck
NJSS
Is the tight tolerance mode on the diagnostics computer ?
1st May 2020 5:45 pm
robpenrose
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What work was done to it? Have you had a 4 wheel alignment done since the suspension work was completed? (Needs to be 4 wheel alignment, not just tracking)
You may need to recalibrate the steering sensor
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1st May 2020 5:56 pm
Bazross
Member Since: 18 Apr 2020
Location: lans
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bottom wishbone replaced and front hub .
and only aligned it by eye .
Is it that critical to have it aligned up ?
also I have reset the sas but that did nothing for it and isn't throwing up any faults direct to that alone .
Regards Baz
1st May 2020 6:08 pm
geoffsnook
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yes you have to have a 4 wheel alignment or you will never reset the steering angle sensor it can't be done by eye it could be a few degrees out and that's enough Discovery 3 se gone
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1st May 2020 6:25 pm
Bazross
Member Since: 18 Apr 2020
Location: lans
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OH dear so any recommendations on who to use .
Im starting to regret buying this reading the woes of the suspension faults,
So it can only be the sas thsts the issue if my logic is correct .
So why all the other control module faults etc ?
If you look at the pic of my clocks apart from the srs and seat belt wearing can anyone tell me why these are lit up please .
Regards
NJSSAm I Gammon or Woke ? - I neither know nor care.
2016 Discovery 4 Landmark
2011 Mercedes Benz SL350 (R230)
1973 MG B GT V8 - 3.9L John Eales engine, 5 speed R380 gearbox, since 1975.
1959 MGA roadster - 1.9L Peter Burgess Engine - 5 speed gearbox
Past LRs - Multiple FFRs, Discos & a Series I - some petrol, some diesel,
none Electric or H2 fuel cell - yet.
There are 10 types of people in this world: Those who understand binary, and those who don’t.
1st May 2020 7:11 pm
Bazross
Member Since: 18 Apr 2020
Location: lans
Posts: 141
Again forgive my ignorance what's ttm .
Tight tolerance mode? would this be a lr thing or not
1st May 2020 7:15 pm
waterbuoy
Member Since: 26 Oct 2013
Location: Argyll
Posts: 2879
Not sure if TTM is LR 'thing' or not but four wheel alignment makes a huge difference to the way the car handles
The four wheel alignment is not specific to LR vehicles, and in over 350k of D3/D4 motoring the suspension has been the least of my troubles!Currently 2009 Disco 3 SE, 2013 MY D4 HSE and 2016 D4 SE
Previously:
TD5 Defender 110 CSW (230k miles)
300TDi Disco 1 (289k)
4 RR Classics (300-350k each, 2 manual, 2 auto)
110 V8 CSW (220k)
S3 109 hi cap pickup (ex RN)
S2A 88 Safari SW with lpg conversion (bloody lethal)
1st May 2020 7:44 pm
robpenrose
Member Since: 12 Jan 2016
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Bazross wrote:
OH dear so any recommendations on who to use .
Im starting to regret buying this reading the woes of the suspension faults,
So it can only be the sas thsts the issue if my logic is correct .
So why all the other control module faults etc ?
If you look at the pic of my clocks apart from the srs and seat belt wearing can anyone tell me why these are lit up please .
Regards
Don’t read all of the people moaning about suspension problems. Most will be down to people not understanding the requirements for service work, and not setting the car up correctly.
One it’s correct, it’s reliable and is probably the best thing about the D3/D4. However, the D3/D4 is hard on suspension due to weight, so expect mechanical bits to wear. My fronts seem to go every 50k approximately.
You will get lots of other system faults due to everything being linked. It’s very clever, and if something is out of tolerance, it causes faults on other linked systems. I don’t know specifically which errors get thrown up with the D3, but I’m sure someone can answer.
Where are you based in the country? I’m sure someone can recommend somewhere to align the car properly.
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1st May 2020 7:52 pm
Bazross
Member Since: 18 Apr 2020
Location: lans
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Im in Rossendale in Lancashire .
so if a sas fault occurs it can throw up all sorts of different faults that seem unrelated because of the connections to the system is this correct.
1st May 2020 7:57 pm
waterbuoy
Member Since: 26 Oct 2013
Location: Argyll
Posts: 2879
Yes!
Can't recommend a four wheel alignment centre near Rossendlale, but for other work Flack is recommended by many on the forum - based in Preston.Currently 2009 Disco 3 SE, 2013 MY D4 HSE and 2016 D4 SE
Previously:
TD5 Defender 110 CSW (230k miles)
300TDi Disco 1 (289k)
4 RR Classics (300-350k each, 2 manual, 2 auto)
110 V8 CSW (220k)
S3 109 hi cap pickup (ex RN)
S2A 88 Safari SW with lpg conversion (bloody lethal)
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