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mattm
 


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LubeGaurd ATF Protectorant (Dr Tranny folks)

From the ppl who make Dr Tranny...

http://www.lubegard.com/C-113/LUBEGARD+Pla...Protectant

Considering that Dr Tranny is widely regarded as working and curing (at least temporarily) TC judder issues I thought I would give this a go.

Bit of background, my car is 134k. at about 100k I started getting TC judder. two flushes worked temporarily for about another 10k so I then had a new TC put in. TC seems to work fine but the autobox I think is perhaps starting to show its age slightly.

I put this in over the weekend. Reviews seem to suggest that it takes a bit of time to work its magic but I would say that on my 35mile commute to work this morning the box was definitely shifting better.

Ill let you know progress.
  
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I experienced the 'auto-judder' at around 120k miles as well and then got a flush and Dr Tranny but the judder came back.

Had a new TC fitted last week at 128k miles as it was completely goosed.

If I had the chance again I wouldn't waste money on a flush once you start to get the judder but instead just get the TC done. Sooner or later the TC will still need doing at my mileage and I could have saved £300 on the flush.

Interesting to read about that product though.
  
Post #16639196th Jun 2016 3:04 pm
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mattm
 


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..Yep.

Id agree with that!

I must of spent at least ~£300 on fluid and a couple weekends of my time taken up doing a flush.

However I would hope that this product may prolong the interval before any issues arise.

We will see how it goes.
  
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These pictures show the rear stator bush worn to the extent that e-clutch apply feed is leaking off causing slight slippage in 4th, 5th and 6th.






The case tubes which connect the valve body to the casing have become flattened and no longer have their true sealing quality. These were also replaced.



I'll post pictures of TC when I get them.
  
Post #16639306th Jun 2016 3:40 pm
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Lost for Words
 


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mattm wrote:
I must of spent at least ~£300 on fluid and a couple weekends of my time taken up doing a flush.


Shocked

Cost me less than that for Geoff and his machine to visit from Kent!
 Current: Discovery 3 06MY (55 reg) HSE Auto Zambezi Silver Zambezi Silver Allisport Fast Road Intercooler, V8 Brakes, Silicone IC Hoses, EGRs Blanked, Remapped, De-Cat pipe, FBHIC
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mattm
 


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Well that's for 2 x flushes.

On the drive home I can confirm that the shifting is smoother and more precise and the car is generally much nicer to drive.

The main thing is that the TC 'lockup' (or what I perceive it to be) seems to work much better than before... especially when cold.
  
Post #16639686th Jun 2016 6:22 pm
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Lost for Words
 


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2 flushes? Do you mean just drain and refills? That's not really a flush. Thumbs Up
 Current: Discovery 3 06MY (55 reg) HSE Auto Zambezi Silver Zambezi Silver Allisport Fast Road Intercooler, V8 Brakes, Silicone IC Hoses, EGRs Blanked, Remapped, De-Cat pipe, FBHIC
Freelander 2 2007 HSE Manual Tambora Flame
Previous: FL2 56 reg SE Manual Black (written off Sad )
Disco 3 06 reg B7S Manual Rimini Red Rimini Red
Disco 2 TD5 Y reg ES Manual Blue - Chipped Very Happy
Several Discovery 300 TDis
 
 
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mattm
 


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No, made a home-made flushing rig, so made sure I pumped out all the old stuff from the TC and recirculated with new.
  
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Lord_unsub
 


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I'm getting the judders and hunting between changes. I'm looking at going for dr tranny as a stop gap while i prepare the credit card for a new tc. I have searched the forum for a how to, am I right in thinking I whip off the oil cooler return line and squirt it in? If any one could confirm that would be ace, I'm going around in circles trying to get my head around it, and I've only had it a couple of weeks so everything is new Embarassed Thumbs Up
 So far - 4X4 Info~3 Flash Indicators~2 Video inputs~Bluetooth Music~Dr-T~Fridge~Phone Update~SatNav on the move~Clock on Dash~Black in and out~Window Tints
To Do - LED lights in and out~Black wheels (maybe 18's?)~new grille and and rear lights 
 
Post #16640536th Jun 2016 9:10 pm
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mattm
 


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yep, as easy as that.

I attached a piece of clear hose to the rad fitting, squirt it in and then blow on the hose to make sure it all goes into the rad, then reattach the pipe. It doesn't seem to go in as easily down the pipe.
  
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Lord_unsub
 


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Thank you very much Thumbs Up

Don't suppose you have a pic of the fitting/rad handy by any chance? Bow down
 So far - 4X4 Info~3 Flash Indicators~2 Video inputs~Bluetooth Music~Dr-T~Fridge~Phone Update~SatNav on the move~Clock on Dash~Black in and out~Window Tints
To Do - LED lights in and out~Black wheels (maybe 18's?)~new grille and and rear lights 
 
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lynalldiscovery
 


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When you whip off the cooler line you will find it full of oil and its takes a long time, literally hours and hours for the level to drop enough to be able to get the tranny lube in there, much quicker to whip off the pipe and using an old syringe etc with some small bore pipe on the end suck out all the oil you can from the pipe then the tranny lube goes in with no effort at all.
  
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Lord_unsub
 


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I see, so either straight to rad or replace some pipe oil with the lube itself.

Thanks chaps. The last bit of that text from "suck out" is by far the best bit of innuendo bingo I've seen in a long time!

Thanks again
 So far - 4X4 Info~3 Flash Indicators~2 Video inputs~Bluetooth Music~Dr-T~Fridge~Phone Update~SatNav on the move~Clock on Dash~Black in and out~Window Tints
To Do - LED lights in and out~Black wheels (maybe 18's?)~new grille and and rear lights 
 
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