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MRWOO
 


Member Since: 26 Jun 2010
Location: Cheshire
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United Kingdom 2016 Discovery 4 3.0 SDV6 Landmark LE Auto Indus SilverDiscovery 4
Steering Vibration Conundrum

All,

I have a really annoying vibration through the steering when -

1. Been driving for a few miles and things have warmed up
2. More noticeable at speeds over 60mph, terrible at 80mph
3. More noticeable when foot is on the power, but is still there slightly when not
4. More noticeable on a motorway that has a slight bend but is still bad on the straight

Things I have checked -

1. Visual on everything underneath and cannot feel anything loose
2. Felt all brake disks after the vibration and there is no heat in any of them


Things I've been told it could be -

1. Gearbox judder - use some judder fix lubricant, this would be annoying as I have had the gearbox flushed twice in it's 130k

2. EPB actuators, this is why I felt the rear disks but they were stone cold after coasting into a motorway services to check.

3. Front Diff, not sure how this is diagnosed?

4. Drive shaft/half shaft, again not sure how this is diagnosed?

5. CV Joint, again not sure how this is diagnosed?

6. Wheels needs balancing, surprised it not there all the time if this was the case, it tends to only happen when things have warmed up.

And finally it has been into two specialists that cannot find anything wrong, my thoughts are they have not driven it as I suggested to witness the problem.

Any help on what checks I could do next or recommended specialist that knows there stuff I would really appreciate it, its driving me mad?

Thanks Rich.
 1964 Series IIA SWB Truck Cab - gone
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1997 300Tdi Defender 90 Hardtop - gone
1983 Series III SWB Station Wagon - gone
1979 Series III SWB Station Wagon - gone
2007 90 CSW - gone
2010 USW XS - gone
2006 Disco3 - awesome & gone!

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Robbie
 


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A few of your observations suggest prop shaft bearing.
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MRWOO
 


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Thanks Robbie, is there anything I can do to confirm this? Do you fix things like this and could I bring it to you?

Cheers
 1964 Series IIA SWB Truck Cab - gone
1981 Series III SWB Hardtop - gone
1982 Series III SWB Hardtop - gone
1997 300Tdi Defender 90 Hardtop - gone
1983 Series III SWB Station Wagon - gone
1979 Series III SWB Station Wagon - gone
2007 90 CSW - gone
2010 USW XS - gone
2006 Disco3 - awesome & gone!

1959 Series II Truck Cab
1984 Series 3 88" CSW
2004 Defender 90 CSW
2016 Disco 4 Landmark 
 
Post #144547620th Mar 2015 9:24 am
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Robbie
 


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I'm rather pedestrian with spanners, the electrics are more my thing. For stuff like this I would be approaching Flack, who resides in Preston.

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 Land Rover - Turning Drivers into Mechanics Since 1948

Battery & Quiescent Current Drain Testing

Diagnostics for:
Defender, FL2, D3, D4, Evoque, RRS & FFRR
A not-for-profit enterprise


 
 
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Ok Thanks for that
 1964 Series IIA SWB Truck Cab - gone
1981 Series III SWB Hardtop - gone
1982 Series III SWB Hardtop - gone
1997 300Tdi Defender 90 Hardtop - gone
1983 Series III SWB Station Wagon - gone
1979 Series III SWB Station Wagon - gone
2007 90 CSW - gone
2010 USW XS - gone
2006 Disco3 - awesome & gone!

1959 Series II Truck Cab
1984 Series 3 88" CSW
2004 Defender 90 CSW
2016 Disco 4 Landmark 
 
Post #144564220th Mar 2015 1:55 pm
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MRWOO
 


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United Kingdom 2016 Discovery 4 3.0 SDV6 Landmark LE Auto Indus SilverDiscovery 4

Okay, after jacking all wheels and checking for play I think the bearings are sound. This weekend I simply swapped the front wheels to the back and it appears from my first drive to work this morning that the problem has gone.

Numpty mode was fully engaged why I didnt do this sooner or indeed get the wheels balanced, the big one for me is why the vibration was only occuring under load and as soon as I lifted off the power the vibration would go.

My gut feel is it is a combination of may be an unbalanced wheel, flat spot on a tyre with a suspension set up that's in need of a refresh, particularly the front lower wishbones.
 1964 Series IIA SWB Truck Cab - gone
1981 Series III SWB Hardtop - gone
1982 Series III SWB Hardtop - gone
1997 300Tdi Defender 90 Hardtop - gone
1983 Series III SWB Station Wagon - gone
1979 Series III SWB Station Wagon - gone
2007 90 CSW - gone
2010 USW XS - gone
2006 Disco3 - awesome & gone!

1959 Series II Truck Cab
1984 Series 3 88" CSW
2004 Defender 90 CSW
2016 Disco 4 Landmark 
 
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